andyc Posted May 30, 2007 Author Share Posted May 30, 2007 Well with Billing deadline now out of the window and a new date in mind progress has been made on the metal work. Nick managed to obtain a N.O.S lower B pillar panel which was a great help, saved fabing one. Now with the pillar straight we have moved onto the o/s/r arches and 1/4 panel Next week we are hoping to have the arches done and the 1/4 panel on cheers Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Am I wrong or are you now exposing rust that the stripping process missed (looking at the last picture). That might be somewhat disappointing. Cheers, Joe. Please log into this site from the Home page folks. It helps to keep it as the first Manta site listed on Google. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc Posted May 31, 2007 Author Share Posted May 31, 2007 There are a few spot on every tight panel seems but a hell or a lot less than blasting. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulmanta Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 If you had unspotted the whole car and taken it to be dipped in bits it might well have cost less and would have got all the rust in the seams. not very practical though.[}][] ....now i swing a sledgehammer on a railroad gang.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalCol Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 Hey, it's bad enough seeing my car in this state without talking about turning it into the world's biggest Airfix kit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc Posted June 1, 2007 Author Share Posted June 1, 2007 what a bloody good idea Paul, why didn't i think of that in the first place, though it might not be straight again once it went back together Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i240 Dan Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 I was seriously thinking about getting my shell stripped and dipped with this company till I emailed for a price. Our costs to process your Opel Manta would be as follows: To chemically clean the bodyshell £675.00 + VAT We can also offer a priming service as follows: To zinc phosphate and electrophoretic coat (immersion primer) – Recommended £750.00 + VAT Or alternatively To oven bake and etch prime shell £350.00 + VATid="blue"> I personally wouldn't have done it the way you have by getting the car stripped right from the start but you could always find a price to take the car back and have it re dipped in immersion primer once finished. Dan Member: 5612 http://www.mantaclub.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6321 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc Posted July 2, 2007 Author Share Posted July 2, 2007 Sorry Dan i might of read that wrong but from what your saying is that you would take the shell to Brum, they are the only place in europe that can take a shell, have it stripped, take it back in bear metal which will already have started to rust agin. Then do all the metal work which could take a few months. Then take it back again to Brum, have it re-dipped to get all the new rust off them have it primed. Sorry that doesn't stack up. With any body restoration work you have got to start with clean metal otherwise you just end up chacing the rust. I can see what your saying in that its a shame to have the shell primed then start cutting aload of panels out, but that how it goes. Until the shell is stripped you can never say what it's like underneath the paint. Anything can be made to good great with body filler and underseal. The main reason we / Nick went for the dip instead of blasting is that the dip gets into all the box sections. It would be a shame to go to all that work of re-building a shell only to find the chassis legs have gone through in a couple of years. Yes the process is alot of cash but i have yet to meet anyone who restores a car who is sane!!! Cheers Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i240 Dan Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 What I meant by saying I wouldn't have had it dipped at the start is that I would carry out the obvious major repair jobs such as the chassis rail before having it dipped as then the new pannels would be stripped and dipped giving them optimum protection. Now when you weld up some pannels the paint will burn off inside the rails leaving small spots free of rust prevention. My suggestion for having it re dipped in primer when finished was meaning if money was no object then that is what I would do. Unfortunately I can't really afford to have my shell dipped before during or after the restoration Dan Member: 5612 http://www.mantaclub.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6321 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc Posted July 3, 2007 Author Share Posted July 3, 2007 ok i'm with you on that. What we done was to take the spare panels we knew we were going to need with us and had them stripped and primed at the same time. I can see what your saying about the primer burning off but what we use is heavy weld through zinc rich primer, as they use in our bodyshop at work so the should hold most things back. I think that what ever way you go there will always be a place where rust will reappear Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc Posted August 3, 2007 Author Share Posted August 3, 2007 well time for an update and whats been happening. Well with the run up to Billing and other commitments things have been a tad slow with only a few hours work being put in. Well since we were last hear the 1/4 panel is now on after a bit of fettling, taking a cutting disc to a new OE panel can be a bit nerve wrecking. I ended up having to cut the lenght of the door shut line to get thinh€gs to fit. Nick managed to pick up a new nose cone and uprate cylinder head which we collected at Billing and while Nick was over he spent some time trial fitting all the A/C parts so i've got an idea on where they all go. The engine has also been collected from Damaco Engineering. Its been re-bored, new pistons, block skimmed, head skimmed, unleaded head conversion with new valves and seats, crank has been polished and all bottom end parts have be balanced. One point to note is the head is, i think, now surplus to requirements so if anyones interested then contact Nick direct. At the moment we are working on the o/s inner sill / floor pan section which has already been badly repaired. Once we have all the replace then we can get the sill panel on and finaly button up the o/s of the car. Well now for some pics http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w245 ... nel001.jpg marking out for the 1/4 panel cut http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w245 ... nel002.jpg door shut before http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w245 ... nel007.jpg 1/4 panel cut and re welded http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w245 ... nel009.jpg 1/4 re weld cleaned up http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w245 ... nta003.jpg "C" Pillar marked out for cutting http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w245 ... nta004.jpg panel section cut out http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w245 ... nta005.jpg replacement section fitted http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w245 ... nta002.jpg A/C heater box fitted http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w245 ... nta007.jpg condenser fitted well thats it for now and hopefully we will back up to speed in the next couple of weeks Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2908642343 Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 Andy, the 2.4 engine now it has had all this work done on it, what are you expecting the BHP to be. Is the Frontera engine a straight swap for the 2.0l cih, what components do you need from the fronteria to make it all work. Where is Damaco Engineering and how much did all the work cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc Posted August 9, 2007 Author Share Posted August 9, 2007 2.4 Engine is just drop in but you will need a Carlton 2.2 inlet manifold, loom and ECU........ the egnine i've mentioned in my piece above is a 2.0 CIH Damaco are based in Larling,Norfolk, about ten mins up the A11 from Thetford so its nice and close for us. With all the machine work, cleaning and parts the engine cost just under £700.00. But remember thats four pistons and diffenent exhaust valves for unleaded fuel Damaco's number is 01953 717784 ask for Darren Cheers Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Abbott Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 Hi Andy Why did you have to cut that 1/4 panel? I've got a new one to put on the same side on my Manta cosworth project and i hope i don't have to start chopping it up. Was it because of the damage to the b post? Kev Many A Night Tinkering About OMOC 4076 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc Posted August 10, 2007 Author Share Posted August 10, 2007 It had alot to do with the pillar althought everything is straight!!!!. All i can say is make sure you have lots of mole grip and clamp the panel on and spend alot of time making sure every seam and joint is correct before welding, dont think that just because its a new panel it will just drop in place. Cheers Andy PS. cutting a new OE 1/4 panel is a bit of a brown trouser moment!![:0] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalCol Posted August 10, 2007 Share Posted August 10, 2007 We had a look at Jo's Exclusive and the top of the door is closer to the rear 1/4 panel than the bottom of the door. It's the same on quite a few Mantas I've seen. The project car is going to get a consistent gap all the way down the door now that Andy has adjusted the panel, so it's going to be better than original... I'm not saying some fettling wasn't required, it's just that we could have probably done less if he hadn't noticed and decided it had to be fixed. I have absolutely no problem with perfectionists! Cheers, N. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted August 10, 2007 Share Posted August 10, 2007 "it's going to be better than original" Does that mean you'll be entering it in the 'Better Than Original' class at Billing next year Nick...?[8D] Cheers, Joe. Please log into this site from the Home page folks. It helps to keep it as the first Manta site listed on Google. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc Posted August 10, 2007 Author Share Posted August 10, 2007 no pressure then Nick!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalCol Posted August 11, 2007 Share Posted August 11, 2007 Hmmm, my own class, eh? Do I get all three prizes? Cheers, N. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie Posted August 11, 2007 Share Posted August 11, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Joe "it's going to be better than original" id="quote">id="quote"> Is'nt that Standard or more to the point modified [] http://www.mantamagic.com OMOC N,Ireland Rep id="blue"> OMOC 5706 Please dont shoot me it,s only an opinion not a demand Email robbie @ mantamagic.com (without the spaces) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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andyc Posted August 13, 2007 Author Share Posted August 13, 2007 steady Robbie your on thin ice with that one!!, Go pick in TV by the way and nice to the club line up on the main page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalCol Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 Don't get me started about those bloody classes, I'm in modified and that appears to be that! Still, I'm determined to give Jock a run for his money. [] Mantadoc, I find it's better not to even think about how much more it would cost than to just throw it all away and buy another car. I've still got Jo convinced it's more cost effective running an older car than a new one (Jo rolls on the floor laughing from the couch next to me...) Cheers, Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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andyc Posted August 30, 2007 Author Share Posted August 30, 2007 ok just a quick update on progress so far. Finally got the o/s floor, inner sill and outer sill on with just the underside of the sill to weld into place, this will be done when we turn the shell to do the chassis leg. So onto the next section,the front end. Nick picked up an nose cone which we collected at billing so now we are making sure the nose is in the correct place relative to the wings and bonnet. Also on the list is the re-placemet of the re-placement of the n/s inner wing as the first had a kink in it which wasn't noticable untill it was fitted and the replacement of the battery try. Thankfully we have a bit of flex with the battery try as the A/C box will hide most of it. Time wise we are hopfully looking at the begining of 08 to have the car into paint then i can start doing a bit on my other two projects More later, Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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