gt4_ade Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 I know this is a long shot but i'm after parts to convert my 4 door ascona to 2 door, so will need b pillars, doors and rear quaters. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stradacab Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Holy Cow! thats a biggie. Obviously not out of the question but rear inner frame, rear wing, b post, sills, doors etc is, like you say, a big ask. Would just finding a 2 door shell be easier? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemanta Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 get in contact with drew on here he will find you a good 2 door shell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiney_norman Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Ade, if you did buy a 2 door shell instead, let me know, I might even be interested in your 4 door! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christ Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Sounds like a bit job and obviously to do it you're going to have to cut the original B pillar out so why not just move it back 6 inches (or whatever the difference is). Cut a section out of the rear door and weld into the middle of the fronts thus lengthening them and then weld the remains of the rear door in the rear. then all you need is the 2dr glass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemanta Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 the only way you will do it is to get a 2 door shell and cut it up and weld it to your front end, everything from the a posts back is different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opel2000 Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 interesting one this. I would start off with a Manta sill and weld in place. Manta door is the same as what was fitted on the 2 door MKI Cavs and Scones, will need to cobble up the door frame from 2 of the Scone doors. With sill and door in position, there should be a good starting point for the B pillar and quarter panel dimensions/positioning/modification. Well they were my first thoughts on tackling this, seems pretty straightforward at first............ At the end of the day the cars are only made of steel, and you can do anything with steel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumster Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Clive, I tried to make an egg & cucumber sandwich out of a piece of steel & failed miserably, so that's your ideas on steel right up the Swanee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Power Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 unfortunately you're onto a loser here. The bits you need will have to come from a 2 door shell, and whatever condition that's in, it will be easier to restore it than convert a 4 door! 2 doors are the rarest opels in the uk now, think there are 7 left on the road according to dvla, they are right at the top of the endangered list! Get a 2 door shell from germany, and use your 4 door front end parts to convert it to RHD if you want. RHD 2 doors are like hens teeth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ascona400r Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 2 doors are the rarest opels in the uk now, think there are 7 left on the road according to dvla, they are right at the top of the endangered list! RHD 2 doors are like hens teeth Endangered yes but i think your figures may be wrong..... reason being if your figures are correct then i own roughly 80% of those remaining 7, and know of at least another 10- 15 rhd 2 doors UK registered (not converted Mk1 Cavaliers) but not sure if these ones are taxed or sorned.... and not sure what way the dvla records work. Know of another guy in southern Ireland who bought a back section of a 2 door in Germany along with two doors (2 door ones) and converted the panels from a 4 door to a 2 door so it has been done before. Still think cheaper option is to buy a lhd one in the first place, though as said 2 door Asconas in rhd form are getting thin on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shug Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 as if by magic: http://cgi.ebay.de/Opel-Ascona-B-1-6l-OLDTIMER-/130475308850?pt=Automobile&hash=item1e60ef3732 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opel2000 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 (edited) unfortunately you're onto a loser here. The bits you need will have to come from a 2 door shell, and whatever condition that's in, it will be easier to restore it than convert a 4 door! Will disagree with you there Nat, or Callum. Anyone that is used to cutting and welding should be able to do a competent job of the transformation from 4 to 2 door. Only real 2 door parts that would be needed as far as I can see would be headlining and front and rear cards to match whatever interior trim oh and maybe some 2 door rear quarter glass and seals, hmm seeing a slightly bigger picture now, now a bit more thought is going into it Edit:- Bit more thought..... hardest part ofany fabrication would be to do a nice job of modding the complete 'B' pillar, especially where the rear quarter glass would be fitting. Also you would be needing to find longer door seals for the 2 door, manta ones will be different due to lack of window frame on the manta obviously. The more I think the more the steel work seems the easiest bit. Edited January 17, 2011 by opel2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opel2000 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Been chewing this over in my head a bit more............ Won't the rear quarter glass frames/seating/mounting area not be there as there will be an aperture for a door instead. Can see this causing quite a few problems...... Looking at this area this could cause one hell of a serious headache. Personally I would not like to be fabricating an area such as this myself, this would be really difficult, even if there was a drawing to work from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gt4_ade Posted January 17, 2011 Author Share Posted January 17, 2011 I know this would be a hell of a lot of work but if i imported a 2 door from germany i don't know what the car would really be like, were as i know my 4 door only has 1 owner, 43k and waxolyed from new so under neath it is soild. If i could get a lhd 2 door that was sturctally sound i think i would end up making a rhd 2 door out of the 2 cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Power Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 (edited) Will disagree with you there Nat, or Callum. Anyone that is used to cutting and welding should be able to do a competent job of the transformation from 4 to 2 door. Only real 2 door parts that would be needed as far as I can see would be headlining and front and rear cards to match whatever interior trim oh and maybe some 2 door rear quarter glass and seals, hmm seeing a slightly bigger picture now, now a bit more thought is going into it Edit:- Bit more thought..... hardest part ofany fabrication would be to do a nice job of modding the complete 'B' pillar, especially where the rear quarter glass would be fitting. Also you would be needing to find longer door seals for the 2 door, manta ones will be different due to lack of window frame on the manta obviously. The more I think the more the steel work seems the easiest bit. I don't fancy making the upper b pillar from scratch and getting no distortion in it!! Endangered yes but i think your figures may be wrong..... reason being if your figures are correct then i own roughly 80% of those remaining 7, and know of at least another 10- 15 rhd 2 doors UK registered (not converted Mk1 Cavaliers) but not sure if these ones are taxed or sorned.... and not sure what way the dvla records work. Know of another guy in southern Ireland who bought a back section of a 2 door in Germany along with two doors (2 door ones) and converted the panels from a 4 door to a 2 door so it has been done before. Still think cheaper option is to buy a lhd one in the first place, though as said 2 door Asconas in rhd form are getting thin on the ground. Yea I think the DVLA figures are ones currently taxed. I got that number from Total Vauxhall Mag "endangered list" article a few months back, and they got it from DVLA PS not too shy of bit of metalwork..........Retropower ascona 400R build Edited January 17, 2011 by Retro Power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ascona400r Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I know this would be a hell of a lot of work but if i imported a 2 door from germany i don't know what the car would really be like, were as i know my 4 door only has 1 owner, 43k and waxolyed from new so under neath it is soild. If i could get a lhd 2 door that was sturctally sound i think i would end up making a rhd 2 door out of the 2 cars. I've a mint white 2 door lhd Ascona coming home from Holland fairly soon which i will be selling, i'll keep you informed. See the way i would look at it if i were you is that your four door is worth, for talks sake £1500. Why if its so good would you cut the bulkhead out of it when you can buy a bulkhead and all dash parts out of a rotten one for £150. And a little more than £2000 will get you a good lhd home from abroad. I converted a lhd to rhd last year, had the dash etc etc and the panel beater charged me £200. So basically if you buy the colour in lhd that you want, you should have it converted into rhd including painting bulkhead for say under £3000. So for talks sake £1500 on top of the four door if you sold her... though these figures are just gestimates, also i don't know what your 4 door is worth so just using £1500 as a figure. So there ye go........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Power Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Makes sense to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
399Road Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 (edited) Brian/ ascona400r, It would be interesting to start a register of these Asconas with pictures and info on if they are 400 replicas / arched / unarched /standard / modified etc.....What do you think? Luke. Edited January 23, 2011 by 399Road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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