tony g 79 Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 i'm not old, I've got only a high mileage... Classic! I will use that Tony Quote Link to post Share on other sites
H-400 1,634 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Some more info: I noticed there is a small L- folded piece welded between the original Manta chassis-rail and the 400 chassis rail. It is 1cm by 1cm and 10.5cm long and curved to follow the chape of the rail. this picture shows also the welded piece. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
H-400 1,634 Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Damo needed some more measurements, needed something that was compareble with the original manta chassis. I stole a picture of Novasport because all the pics of 400 chassis are already not suitable there they have slide-panels to protect the brackets etc... @Novasport: sorry, it is because your chassis looks so good! from the top centre of this bolt (going to the outside)in the left bracket to the centre of the water drain hole nr.2 is 68.7 cm. from the top centre of this bolt (going to the outside)in the right bracket to the centre of the water drain hole nr.1 is 67.7cm. Grtz! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falk5150 6 Posted March 24, 2015 Author Share Posted March 24, 2015 Herman, you're a star dude! I owe you more than a couple of beers! Thanks for all your help! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
H-400 1,634 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Maybe I do have to visit Northamptonshire... (no problem for the help, next thing to do is cleaning and testing my fuel injectors. think I have some dead horses in the engine...) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Retro Power 238 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 (edited) Digging up this topic as I'm doing some "sorting out" regarding a few 400 rear axle related things. Just measuring up on a good straight 400 road car with no known accident history etc so I can make a jig for locating the rear chassis rail sections on the 'shell. This is now done and I have made a few observations, which largely agree with what's above but just thought I'd record them here for posterity and future reference! The upper link brackets appear to be as near as makes no difference 12 degrees outwards from perpendicular with the axle tube. The upper links are 296mm long between centres Lower links are 16 degrees inwards from perpendicular. Lower link brackets on axle are spaced further apart on 400 axle compared to commodore axle Upper link brackets are closer together on 400 than commodore Rear shock absorber mounts are higher up on lower link brackets on 400 compared to commodore. Panhard rod mounting is different between 400 and commodore Edited October 12, 2015 by Retro Power Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jessopia74 1,209 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 On 26/10/2014 at 19:12, H-400 said: Hi Damo, sorry for my late response, had some "to do's" (yes, I'm married...) and later I had time to look at the suspension of my 400. Had to make the car free and tomorrow I will jack it up to check the differences. I can give you the next plan of the chassis of a 400: The biggest difference between a commo axle and a 400 one is that a commo's the linkings point forward, and a 400's linking arms have an angle. I think that is wat you already wrote in your mail. The bottom linking arms (with the springs)point forward together, and the upper arms point outwards. Tomorrow I will take some pictures and check the measurements. Grts! Herman. @H-400 Hi Herman, do you have this again? It's compressed on forum and clicking it no longer takes to original. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
H-400 1,634 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Must be possible to help you. I can still see everything on this topic but probably cause I posted a lot. Was in the days of photobucket or Tinypic...So copy & past can not work. But i'v got the pics on a flash card so think the best is I'll start a topic with all the info so everybody that needs it can use it. Give me some time Jess, I will sort it out. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
®evo03 717 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Didnt know a 400 hatch was produced, apparently? Failed approval? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
H-400 1,634 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 There was one 400 hatch produced, it was build by Opel & Irmscher. Was a blue one and I spoke to the owner on one of those "400" meetings in Holland. Car was in a bad condition but the owner wanted to restore it. http://www.mantab.de/www.mantab.de/cms/front_contentdcc1.html?idcat=105 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Irmscher Man 610 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 That’s really interesting Herman, I haven’t ever seen photos of this car before. I have heard of a Hatchback i200 that was produced as a 1 off by Irmscher UK. I’ve not managed to find any photos of this one yet. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jessopia74 1,209 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 53 minutes ago, H-400 said: There was one 400 hatch produced, it was build by Opel & Irmscher. Was a blue one and I spoke to the owner on one of those "400" meetings in Holland. Car was in a bad condition but the owner wanted to restore it. http://www.mantab.de/www.mantab.de/cms/front_contentdcc1.html?idcat=105 WOW great find Mate, very interesting stuff. 👍 a few pics on that site if pickups too, but again not high enough resolution to get much good positioning measurements off. But, solidifies in my mind why coupes are the true Manta, it was the real choice of Opel at the end of the day 😂 ( J/K hatch owners before you all tag team me lol ). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
H-400 1,634 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 @Paul & Jess: There is a lot of new info to find out as an example I never knew the Exclusive was so much more build for the UK than the EU market. Learned that thanks to the OMOC forum. Some models are typical made for a local market as the "Guy Frequelin" in France: The Silverjet from Switserland: 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jessopia74 1,209 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Is that first Manta model with oem fitted Recaros? Like that Jet models looks 😎 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
®evo03 717 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 (edited) 17 hours ago, H-400 said: There was one 400 hatch produced, it was build by Opel & Irmscher. Was a blue one and I spoke to the owner on one of those "400" meetings in Holland. Car was in a bad condition but the owner wanted to restore it. http://www.mantab.de/www.mantab.de/cms/front_contentdcc1.html?idcat=105 Yes this is the info i found whilst researching, thanks Herman. I knew it existed before, thought most knew about it! Learned something else direct from irmscher! All exclusives where finished by irmscher, thats a statement direct from irmscher, the story of gm finishing 88 cars is untrue! Apparently? 16 hours ago, Jessopia74 said: But, solidifies in my mind why coupes are the true Manta, it was the real choice of Opel at the end of the day 😂 ( J/K hatch owners before you all tag team me lol ). How dare you! That's codswallop! 😂 Edited March 23 by ®evo03 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
H-400 1,634 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Found the flash-card with those rear axle pics, would better mark the date on those cards... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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