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 The underside colour could be a 'German thing'  It is a German tradition to paint the mechanical parts red, like this Steam Loco -




 ( for the train spotters on here, and there are many, this is Loco 82 008 at the Siegen Museum, Germany )

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I have seen this car on this site now for about a month I even considered going to view it!

But I do believe it was around the 10'000 mark

There is a really clean one in Holland same colour 190hp 2.0 16v on the same site I tried to link it today to see if any the Dutch guys knew it but sadly on my phone I can't paste a link on here ;-)

I email seller for more details please and I got back!

It's really nice clean car Lol

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