kikobot Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 (edited) Hello, i know these engines have different "personality" ( sorry, i dont have the english word), but which one has the BEST MPG? I mean stock engines, essentially for town ! THx If there is a difference, is it really significative? Edited February 23, 2016 by kikobot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowy Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 I have always found the X20XEV is better on fuel than the C20NE. It makes sense as it has a much better torque curve and is a more modern design. When I swapped a 20SEH in a Vectra A to a X20XEV I got a 6mpg increase in fuel economy. So you don't get much better than that. Everything else stayed the same even the F16cr gearbox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kikobot Posted February 23, 2016 Author Share Posted February 23, 2016 THx again Snowy, if i ask this question , its because i think im gonna buy the omega A i found last week, it has only 75k miles, really well maintained ( new distribution, water pump etc), the owner is an old lady, she has all the bills to prove that and i love the idea of a low rev torqued engine like c20ne as my rekord coupe will be used for cruisin and daily drive with only few kilometers per day! Do you think i can show my car in "your project" even if its not a Manta ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowy Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, kikobot said: THx again Snowy, if i ask this question , its because i think im gonna buy the omega A i found last week, it has only 75k miles, really well maintained ( new distribution, water pump etc), the owner is an old lady, she has all the bills to prove that and i love the idea of a low rev torqued engine like c20ne as my rekord coupe will be used for cruisin and daily drive with only few kilometers per day! Do you think i can show my car in "your project" even if its not a Manta ? The C20NE has less low down torque than the X20XEV. I love the myths that it has more torque. It's the same work to fit both, but your choice. Less power, less torque, worse fuel economy. Edited February 23, 2016 by Snowy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANTAMAN Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 2 hours ago, kikobot said: , it has only 75k miles, really well maintained ( new distribution, water pump etc), the owner is an old lady, she has all the bills to prove that This Omega A is really good, i think it should be preserved, Vauxhall Carlton / Omega A is getting a rare car in the UK and i would guess in france as well, your conscience tells you to preserve this Omega A !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kikobot Posted February 24, 2016 Author Share Posted February 24, 2016 (edited) this omega A has met a big tree and the shell is dead !! i think i could be a saver instead of a destroyer !! What scares me are the 136hp of the x20xev for my rekord which has brakes for 75 hp and the "sensors problems" of the x20xev, plus hydraulic clutch to fit etc Maybe i am wrong ? Edited February 24, 2016 by kikobot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowy Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 52 minutes ago, kikobot said: this omega A has met a big tree and the shell is dead !! i think i could be a saver instead of a destroyer !! What scares me are the 136hp of the x20xev for my rekord which has brakes for 75 hp and the "sensors problems" of the x20xev, plus hydraulic clutch to fit etc Maybe i am wrong ? To be honest I'd be looking to upgrade your brakes no matter which engine you go for. The hydraulic clutch is easy, or convert it to cable operation. As for the sensors etc. The crank sensors are an issue on both engines of this age. Electronics don't last forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kikobot Posted February 24, 2016 Author Share Posted February 24, 2016 Snowy, i didnt find any info on upgrading brakes on a 69' rekord c, except coomodore a brakes which arent much more efficient and hard to find parts in france!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANTAMAN Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 8 hours ago, kikobot said: this omega A has met a big tree and the shell is dead !! This is sad, but if you use this car to upgrade your Rekord then its death will not have been a waste. 3 hours ago, kikobot said: i didnt find any info on upgrading brakes on a 69' rekord c If you use the Omega A as an Engine Donor you could also see if the braking system could be transfered, My guess knowing Opels, is there will not be that much diffrence at the front and the rear could possibly be altered to the Omega A Hubs & disc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kikobot Posted February 25, 2016 Author Share Posted February 25, 2016 It would be great if i could use omega brakes !!! i asked about upgrading brakes on a german site but they dont seem to speak english or french !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowy Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 1 hour ago, kikobot said: It would be great if i could use omega brakes !!! i asked about upgrading brakes on a german site but they dont seem to speak english or french !! You need to start doing your own research. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kikobot Posted February 28, 2016 Author Share Posted February 28, 2016 Trust me, il do my own research but il only speak french And english And i dont find anythin for rekord c . I posted on german sites but no answers so i Still search. .. but thanks to You cause il got many great infos on triste site ☺ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANTAMAN Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 On 28/02/2016 at 7:14 PM, kikobot said: I posted on german sites but no answers so i Still search. . Perhaps try posting on a Dutch Opel website, nearly everybody in the Netherlands speaks and types good English and they like their big old Opels as well as Mantas, more so than in the UK. Can you show all of us a picture of your Rekord?? though its not a Manta we would all like to see it because it is a historic Opel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kikobot Posted March 1, 2016 Author Share Posted March 1, 2016 18 hours ago, MANTAMAN said: Can you show all of us a picture of your Rekord?? though its not a Manta we would all like to see it because it is a historic Opel. Of course: and his little sister has a new paint Now you know i love classic " stock" cars and also modified Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MANTAMAN Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Oh Yes, that is nice, you are doing a superb job with the restoration. I know someone who you need to contact, my friend Simon Downs ( stonymanta on this forum ), he has restored a Commodore A, same body as your record, He also had modified Minis when he was younger, both of you have very similar interest, here is a link to the thread of the restoration of the Commodore A - Simon Downs Commodore A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kikobot Posted March 2, 2016 Author Share Posted March 2, 2016 Thanks for the link, mantaman, simon did an amazing job, his car is wonderful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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