GARAGE CLEAR OUT.

[BIG STU]

HELLO EVERYONE.

I HAVE RECENTLY FOUND OUT THAT I AM ABOUT TO LOOSE MY LOCK UP.SO I HAVE DECIDED TO HAVE A CLEAR OUT OF MY BITS AND PIECES INCLUDING SOME OF MY MANTA SPARES.

BEFORE  I PUT THEM ON EBAY I THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE NICE TO OFFER YOU GUYS AND GIRLS THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO BUY ANY OF MY LISTED ITEMS OFF ME FOR A GOOD PRICE.

ITEMS FOR SALE.

CIH 2.0 LITRE ENGINE BLOCK INCLUDING CRANKSHAFT,PISTONS AND SUMP.THE PERSON I PURCHASED THE FULL ENGINE OFF TOLD ME THAT THE ENGINE HAD GONE THROUGH A TOTAL REBUILD WITHIN 12 MONTHS OF ME BUYING IT.INCLUDING NEW PISTONS AND RINGS,CRANKSHAFT POLISHED,NEW MAINS AND BIG END BEARINGS.PLUS ALL OF THE CYLINDER HEAD HAD BEEN REFURBED INCLUDING NEW CAM BEARINGS,CAMSHAFT,AND NEW TAPPETS.THIS WAS THE REASON I BOUGHT THE ENGINE AS I NEEDED A REPLACEMENT CYLINDER HEAD FOR MY MANTA B SR.JUDGING BY THE CONDITION OF THE CYLINDER HEAD I BELIEVE WHAT THE GUY TOLD ME IS TRUE AS EVERYTHING HE SAID ABOUT THE HEAD WAS TRUE.THIS ENGINE HAS BEEN REGULARLY ROTATED AND OIL PUT ON THE BORES TO PROTECT THEM AGAINST CORROSION.

£100.00 O.N.O  BUYER TO COLLECT

POLISHED OPEL G.T ROCKER COVER AND STAINLESS STEEL BOLTS.THIS IS IN VERY GOOD CONDITION FOR ITS AGE AND LOOKS GREAT ON ANY CIH ENGINE.

£150.00 COLLECTED OR £180.00 POSTED.

ALUMINIUM FRONT TIMING COVER OF A 2.0 LITRE CIH ENGINE.THIS COVER WAS OFF THE ENGINE MENTIONED ABOVE.IT IS IN REALLY GOOD CONDITION WITH NO SCORES TO THE OIL PUMP HOUSING.i MIGHT HAVE SOME OIL PUMP IMPELLORS FOR IT SOMEWHERE ALONG WITH THE BASE PLATE.

£50.00 FOR THE COVER COLLECTED.£75.00 POSTED.IF I CAN FIND THE IMPELLORS AND BASE PLATE I WILL CHUCK THOSE IN FOR FREE.

3X FRONT HEAD LIGHT SEALS FOR THE EARLY B RECTANGULAR LIGHTS.ONE OF THESE IS BRAND NEW AND STILL IN THE MANUFACTURERS BAG.THE OTHER TWO ARE A PAIR OF GOOD USED ONES.

£40.00 COLLECTED OR £45.00 POSTED.

TWO HEADLIGHT WIPER MOTORS THAT I PURCHASED OF EBAY AS SPARES FOR MINE.THESE ARE BOTH THE LATER TYPE THAT WERE FITTED ON THE GTE,S

£40.00 COLLECTED OR £50.00 POSTED.

ONE NONE GENUINE MANTA B OR MK1 CAVALIER  FRONT WING.I CANT REMEMBER WHICH SIDE ITS FOR,BUT I WILL CHECK TOMORROW WHEN I GO OVER TO MY UNIT.

I BOUGHT THIS OFF EBAY AS A SPARE.IT STILL HAS THE PRIMER ON IT ALONG WITH A BIT OF SURFACE RUST.THIS WOULD REMOVE EASILY WHEN WING IS PREPARED FOR PAINTING.

£70.00 COLLECTED ONLY.

4 SPEED GEARBOX .I THINK THAT THIS WAS ORIGINALLY OFF A MANTA A AS IT HAS THE GEAR STICK WITHOUT THE COLLAR TO GET REVERSE.(YOU GUYS WILL KNOW BETTER THAN ME.) IF YOU NEED ANY MODEL NUMBERS LET ME KNOW AND I WILL HAVE A LOOK.

£40.00 COLLECTED.

2X METAL CIH 4 CYLINDER ROCKER COVERS.BOTH IN A GOOD USED CONDITION.THEY ARE BOTH DENT FREE AND WILL ONLY NEED A CLEAN AND PAINT TO MAKE THEM LOOK LIKE NEW.

£10.00 EACH COLLECTED OR £20.00 EACH POSTED.

4X 13 INCH ROSTYLE WHEELS WITHOUT TYRES IN A GOOD USED CONDITION WITHOUT ANY DENTS TO THE RIMS PLUS VERY LITTLE OR NO CORROSION.

£20.00 FOR ALL 4 COLLECTED.

POLISHED K+N TYPE AIR FILTER HOUSING FOR A TWIN CHOKE WEBER CARBURETOR.STILL LOOKS GOOD AND THE CHROME IS IN REALLY GOOD CONDITION.

£20.00 COLLECTED.£30.00 POSTED.

2X INTERIOR FOAM DOOR HANDLES IN REALLY GOOD CONDITION.

£10.00 COLLECTED OR £15.00 POSTED.

SEALEY 550KG ENGINE STAND USED ONCE.LIKE NEW.

£40.00 COLLECTED.

I EVEN HAVE TO TRY AND SELL MY YOUNG LADS RALEIGH CHOPPER AS HE HAS OUT GROWN IT.ITS A SPECIAL LIMITED EDITION VERSION IN EXCELLENT CONDITION. .WITHOUT ANY MARKS ON IT,PLUS IT STILL HAS THE KNOBBLY BITS ON THE TYRES.IF ANYONE ON THE FORUM IS INTERESTED THEN GIVE ME A SHOUT.

 

I WILL BE HOPEFULLY BE PUTTING SOME MORE SPARES ON HERE VERY SOON ONCE I HAVE SORTED THEM OUT.

IF YOU RE INTERESTED IN ANY OF THE PARTS OR ITEMS THAT I HAVE MENTIONED THEN PLEASE GET IN TOUCH.EITHER BY THE FORUM OF PREFERABLY VIA MY MOBILE AS I CANT GET TO A COMPUTER REGULARLY.

DUE TO WORK COMMITMENTS AND WHERE MY LOCK UP IS.i CAN ONLY ARRANGE COLLECTION ON A SATURDAY OR SUNDAY AFTERNOON.CHEERS.

MY NUMBER IS ..07870159873 AND MY NAME IS STUART.I LIVE IN THE NORTH WEST.

                                                       MANY THANKS STUART.

 

[Wheelybin22]

Hello. Would you have any photos of the wing?

[BIG STU]

I HAVENT .BUT I WILL TRY AND GET SOME TOMORROW AND SEND THEM TO YOU.CHEERS 

[BIG STU]

HELLO EVERYONE.

I HAVE RECENTLY FOUND OUT THAT I AM ABOUT TO LOOSE MY LOCK UP.SO I HAVE DECIDED TO HAVE A CLEAR OUT OF MY BITS AND PIECES INCLUDING SOME OF MY MANTA SPARES.

BEFORE  I PUT THEM ON EBAY I THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE NICE TO OFFER YOU GUYS AND GIRLS THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO BUY ANY OF MY LISTED ITEMS OFF ME FOR A GOOD PRICE.

ITEMS FOR SALE.

CIH 2.0 LITRE ENGINE BLOCK INCLUDING CRANKSHAFT,PISTONS AND SUMP.THE PERSON I PURCHASED THE FULL ENGINE OFF TOLD ME THAT THE ENGINE HAD GONE THROUGH A TOTAL REBUILD WITHIN 12 MONTHS OF ME BUYING IT.INCLUDING NEW PISTONS AND RINGS,CRANKSHAFT POLISHED,NEW MAINS AND BIG END BEARINGS.PLUS ALL OF THE CYLINDER HEAD HAD BEEN REFURBED INCLUDING NEW CAM BEARINGS,CAMSHAFT,AND NEW TAPPETS.THIS WAS THE REASON I BOUGHT THE ENGINE AS I NEEDED A REPLACEMENT CYLINDER HEAD FOR MY MANTA B SR.JUDGING BY THE CONDITION OF THE CYLINDER HEAD I BELIEVE WHAT THE GUY TOLD ME IS TRUE AS EVERYTHING HE SAID ABOUT THE HEAD WAS TRUE.THIS ENGINE HAS BEEN REGULARLY ROTATED AND OIL PUT ON THE BORES TO PROTECT THEM AGAINST CORROSION.

£100.00 O.N.O  BUYER TO COLLECT

POLISHED OPEL G.T ROCKER COVER AND STAINLESS STEEL BOLTS.THIS IS IN VERY GOOD CONDITION FOR ITS AGE AND LOOKS GREAT ON ANY CIH ENGINE.

£150.00 COLLECTED OR £180.00 POSTED.

ALUMINIUM FRONT TIMING COVER OF A 2.0 LITRE CIH ENGINE.THIS COVER WAS OFF THE ENGINE MENTIONED ABOVE.IT IS IN REALLY GOOD CONDITION WITH NO SCORES TO THE OIL PUMP HOUSING.i MIGHT HAVE SOME OIL PUMP IMPELLORS FOR IT SOMEWHERE ALONG WITH THE BASE PLATE.

£50.00 FOR THE COVER COLLECTED.£75.00 POSTED.IF I CAN FIND THE IMPELLORS AND BASE PLATE I WILL CHUCK THOSE IN FOR FREE.

3X FRONT HEAD LIGHT SEALS FOR THE EARLY B RECTANGULAR LIGHTS.ONE OF THESE IS BRAND NEW AND STILL IN THE MANUFACTURERS BAG.THE OTHER TWO ARE A PAIR OF GOOD USED ONES.

£40.00 COLLECTED OR £45.00 POSTED.

TWO HEADLIGHT WIPER MOTORS THAT I PURCHASED OF EBAY AS SPARES FOR MINE.THESE ARE BOTH THE LATER TYPE THAT WERE FITTED ON THE GTE,S

£40.00 COLLECTED OR £50.00 POSTED.

ONE NONE GENUINE MANTA B OR MK1 CAVALIER  FRONT WING.I CANT REMEMBER WHICH SIDE ITS FOR,BUT I WILL CHECK TOMORROW WHEN I GO OVER TO MY UNIT.

I BOUGHT THIS OFF EBAY AS A SPARE.IT STILL HAS THE PRIMER ON IT ALONG WITH A BIT OF SURFACE RUST.THIS WOULD REMOVE EASILY WHEN WING IS PREPARED FOR PAINTING.

£70.00 COLLECTED ONLY.

4 SPEED GEARBOX .I THINK THAT THIS WAS ORIGINALLY OFF A MANTA A AS IT HAS THE GEAR STICK WITHOUT THE COLLAR TO GET REVERSE.(YOU GUYS WILL KNOW BETTER THAN ME.) IF YOU NEED ANY MODEL NUMBERS LET ME KNOW AND I WILL HAVE A LOOK.

£40.00 COLLECTED.

2X METAL CIH 4 CYLINDER ROCKER COVERS.BOTH IN A GOOD USED CONDITION.THEY ARE BOTH DENT FREE AND WILL ONLY NEED A CLEAN AND PAINT TO MAKE THEM LOOK LIKE NEW.

£10.00 EACH COLLECTED OR £20.00 EACH POSTED.

4X 13 INCH ROSTYLE WHEELS WITHOUT TYRES IN A GOOD USED CONDITION WITHOUT ANY DENTS TO THE RIMS PLUS VERY LITTLE OR NO CORROSION.

£20.00 FOR ALL 4 COLLECTED.

POLISHED K+N TYPE AIR FILTER HOUSING FOR A TWIN CHOKE WEBER CARBURETOR.STILL LOOKS GOOD AND THE CHROME IS IN REALLY GOOD CONDITION.

£20.00 COLLECTED.£30.00 POSTED.

2X INTERIOR FOAM DOOR HANDLES IN REALLY GOOD CONDITION.

£10.00 COLLECTED OR £15.00 POSTED.

SEALEY 550KG ENGINE STAND USED ONCE.LIKE NEW.

£40.00 COLLECTED.

I EVEN HAVE TO TRY AND SELL MY YOUNG LADS RALEIGH CHOPPER AS HE HAS OUT GROWN IT.ITS A SPECIAL LIMITED EDITION VERSION IN EXCELLENT CONDITION. .WITHOUT ANY MARKS ON IT,PLUS IT STILL HAS THE KNOBBLY BITS ON THE TYRES.IF ANYONE ON THE FORUM IS INTERESTED THEN GIVE ME A SHOUT.

 

I WILL BE HOPEFULLY BE PUTTING SOME MORE SPARES ON HERE VERY SOON ONCE I HAVE SORTED THEM OUT.

IF YOU RE INTERESTED IN ANY OF THE PARTS OR ITEMS THAT I HAVE MENTIONED THEN PLEASE GET IN TOUCH.EITHER BY THE FORUM OF PREFERABLY VIA MY MOBILE AS I CANT GET TO A COMPUTER REGULARLY.

DUE TO WORK COMMITMENTS AND WHERE MY LOCK UP IS.i CAN ONLY ARRANGE COLLECTION ON A SATURDAY OR SUNDAY AFTERNOON.CHEERS.

MY NUMBER IS ..07870159873 AND MY NAME IS STUART.I LIVE IN THE NORTH WEST.

                                                       MANY THANKS STUART.

[BIG STU]

HELLO EVERYONE.

I HAVE RECENTLY FOUND OUT THAT I AM ABOUT TO LOOSE MY LOCK UP.SO I HAVE DECIDED TO HAVE A CLEAR OUT OF MY BITS AND PIECES INCLUDING SOME OF MY MANTA SPARES.

BEFORE  I PUT THEM ON EBAY I THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE NICE TO OFFER YOU GUYS AND GIRLS THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO BUY ANY OF MY LISTED ITEMS OFF ME FOR A GOOD PRICE.

ITEMS FOR SALE.

CIH 2.0 LITRE ENGINE BLOCK INCLUDING CRANKSHAFT,PISTONS AND SUMP.THE PERSON I PURCHASED THE FULL ENGINE OFF TOLD ME THAT THE ENGINE HAD GONE THROUGH A TOTAL REBUILD WITHIN 12 MONTHS OF ME BUYING IT.INCLUDING NEW PISTONS AND RINGS,CRANKSHAFT POLISHED,NEW MAINS AND BIG END BEARINGS.PLUS ALL OF THE CYLINDER HEAD HAD BEEN REFURBED INCLUDING NEW CAM BEARINGS,CAMSHAFT,AND NEW TAPPETS.THIS WAS THE REASON I BOUGHT THE ENGINE AS I NEEDED A REPLACEMENT CYLINDER HEAD FOR MY MANTA B SR.JUDGING BY THE CONDITION OF THE CYLINDER HEAD I BELIEVE WHAT THE GUY TOLD ME IS TRUE AS EVERYTHING HE SAID ABOUT THE HEAD WAS TRUE.THIS ENGINE HAS BEEN REGULARLY ROTATED AND OIL PUT ON THE BORES TO PROTECT THEM AGAINST CORROSION.

£100.00 O.N.O  BUYER TO COLLECT

POLISHED OPEL G.T ROCKER COVER AND STAINLESS STEEL BOLTS.THIS IS IN VERY GOOD CONDITION FOR ITS AGE AND LOOKS GREAT ON ANY CIH ENGINE.

£150.00 COLLECTED OR £180.00 POSTED.

ALUMINIUM FRONT TIMING COVER OF A 2.0 LITRE CIH ENGINE.THIS COVER WAS OFF THE ENGINE MENTIONED ABOVE.IT IS IN REALLY GOOD CONDITION WITH NO SCORES TO THE OIL PUMP HOUSING.i MIGHT HAVE SOME OIL PUMP IMPELLORS FOR IT SOMEWHERE ALONG WITH THE BASE PLATE.

£50.00 FOR THE COVER COLLECTED.£75.00 POSTED.IF I CAN FIND THE IMPELLORS AND BASE PLATE I WILL CHUCK THOSE IN FOR FREE.

3X FRONT HEAD LIGHT SEALS FOR THE EARLY B RECTANGULAR LIGHTS.ONE OF THESE IS BRAND NEW AND STILL IN THE MANUFACTURERS BAG.THE OTHER TWO ARE A PAIR OF GOOD USED ONES.

£40.00 COLLECTED OR £45.00 POSTED.

TWO HEADLIGHT WIPER MOTORS THAT I PURCHASED OF EBAY AS SPARES FOR MINE.THESE ARE BOTH THE LATER TYPE THAT WERE FITTED ON THE GTE,S

£40.00 COLLECTED OR £50.00 POSTED.

ONE NONE GENUINE MANTA B OR MK1 CAVALIER  FRONT WING.I CANT REMEMBER WHICH SIDE ITS FOR,BUT I WILL CHECK TOMORROW WHEN I GO OVER TO MY UNIT.

I BOUGHT THIS OFF EBAY AS A SPARE.IT STILL HAS THE PRIMER ON IT ALONG WITH A BIT OF SURFACE RUST.THIS WOULD REMOVE EASILY WHEN WING IS PREPARED FOR PAINTING.

£70.00 COLLECTED ONLY.

4 SPEED GEARBOX .I THINK THAT THIS WAS ORIGINALLY OFF A MANTA A AS IT HAS THE GEAR STICK WITHOUT THE COLLAR TO GET REVERSE.(YOU GUYS WILL KNOW BETTER THAN ME.) IF YOU NEED ANY MODEL NUMBERS LET ME KNOW AND I WILL HAVE A LOOK.

£40.00 COLLECTED.

2X METAL CIH 4 CYLINDER ROCKER COVERS.BOTH IN A GOOD USED CONDITION.THEY ARE BOTH DENT FREE AND WILL ONLY NEED A CLEAN AND PAINT TO MAKE THEM LOOK LIKE NEW.

£10.00 EACH COLLECTED OR £20.00 EACH POSTED.

4X 13 INCH ROSTYLE WHEELS WITHOUT TYRES IN A GOOD USED CONDITION WITHOUT ANY DENTS TO THE RIMS PLUS VERY LITTLE OR NO CORROSION.

£20.00 FOR ALL 4 COLLECTED.

POLISHED K+N TYPE AIR FILTER HOUSING FOR A TWIN CHOKE WEBER CARBURETOR.STILL LOOKS GOOD AND THE CHROME IS IN REALLY GOOD CONDITION.

£20.00 COLLECTED.£30.00 POSTED.

2X INTERIOR FOAM DOOR HANDLES IN REALLY GOOD CONDITION.

£10.00 COLLECTED OR £15.00 POSTED.

SEALEY 550KG ENGINE STAND USED ONCE.LIKE NEW.

£40.00 COLLECTED.

I EVEN HAVE TO TRY AND SELL MY YOUNG LADS RALEIGH CHOPPER AS HE HAS OUT GROWN IT.ITS A SPECIAL LIMITED EDITION VERSION IN EXCELLENT CONDITION. .WITHOUT ANY MARKS ON IT,PLUS IT STILL HAS THE KNOBBLY BITS ON THE TYRES.IF ANYONE ON THE FORUM IS INTERESTED THEN GIVE ME A SHOUT.

 

I WILL BE HOPEFULLY BE PUTTING SOME MORE SPARES ON HERE VERY SOON ONCE I HAVE SORTED THEM OUT.

IF YOU RE INTERESTED IN ANY OF THE PARTS OR ITEMS THAT I HAVE MENTIONED THEN PLEASE GET IN TOUCH.EITHER BY THE FORUM OF PREFERABLY VIA MY MOBILE AS I CANT GET TO A COMPUTER REGULARLY.

DUE TO WORK COMMITMENTS AND WHERE MY LOCK UP IS.i CAN ONLY ARRANGE COLLECTION ON A SATURDAY OR SUNDAY AFTERNOON.CHEERS.

MY NUMBER IS ..07870159873 AND MY NAME IS STUART.I LIVE IN THE NORTH WEST.

                                                       MANY THANKS STUART

 

 

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I HAVENT .BUT I WILL TRY AND GET SOME TOMORROW AND SEND THEM TO YOU.CHEERS 

 

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[Danny D114BCW]

Is there any mods on the engine like a fast road cam or anything? 

[BIG STU]

Hi Danny.

Its just the block and bottom end  that I have available.

As I used the head on my sr.

Cheers stuart. 

[mantadoc]

Two threads by same user for same stuff with same heading merged

Make that three threads merged

[BIG STU]

I do apologise.  I am fairly new to this .plus I was having issues with my computer and the internet where I live is bad.

So I didn't know if the topic had loaded.

PLUS SEVERAL CANS OF STELLA DIDNT HELP.

[wayne ingham]

What is the best price for thr engine block,Front timing cover 

cheers wayne 

[BIG STU]

Hi wayne. 

Thanks for your enquiry. 

If you want the engine and the timing cover . You can have both for 130.00.

Especially if you can come and collect them this weekend. 

I hope that you are ok with this price. 

If you need anymore information. Then please give me a quick call or text. 

As I cant always get on the Internet where I live. 

Cheers stuart. 

[BIG STU]

HI EVERYONE. 

JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I HAVE PUT A COUPLE OF THE ITEMS I LISTED NOW ON EBAY.

IF YOU REQUIRE ANY FURTHER INFORMATION OR WISH TO MAKE ME AN OFFER FOR ANY OF MY ITEMS THAT I LISTED JUST GIVE ME A CALL. 

CHEERS. 

[si-north]

Nice chatting today, Commenting so I can trace the thread!! 

 

Cheers Stu,

 

Simon

[BIG STU]

No worries pal.It was really good to speak to you as well. If you need anything I you think I might have it then please give me a shout. 

Cheers stuart. 

PLOISHED ROCKER COVER SOLD.....

POLISHED AIR FILTER SOLD......

IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN ANYTHING ELSE PLEASE LET ME KNOW BEFORE I PUT THEM ON EBAY. 

THANKS. 

STUART. 

[chazza]

HI stuart is the engine block and timing cover still for sale thanks  charlie

[BIG STU]

Hi ya pal.

Yes the engine block and timing cover are still for sale.

Why are you interested. Its just a few people have asked about it. 

But as of yet no one has committed to buying it. 

So its yours if you want it.

Cheers stuart. 

[chazza]

yes ill take it I will ring you in 1 hour if ok

[BIG STU]

No problem. 

I will look forward to hearing from you. Thanks stuart. 

[BIG STU]

Good evening every one. 

Just to let you know that the front wing is sold .

The engine and front timing cover. Sold.

Other things have been listed on ebay. 

If anyone on here is interested just give me a shout and we can sort a deal out. 

Thanks stuart. 

[BIG STU]

Hi everyone. 

I just wanted to let you know that the head light seal are now SOLD.

 

Engine stand SOLD

BOTH  ITEMS SOLD TO DAN OFF THE FORUM

THANKS DAN .

I APPRECIATE IT.

Cheers stuart. 

 

[wayne ingham]

Hi Stuart .Sorry for not replying but my membership ran out and it wil not renew, If the engine is sold no worrys.(only whanted as spare) l can't plck up this weekend as picking new car on Saturday, and out on Sunday at a car show in Liverpool,Thanks for reply 

Cheers Wayne

[BIG STU]

Hi ya wayne.

Dont worry about not getting back to me. Stuff happens. 

If the engine isnt collected I will give you a shout. 

Take care and enjoy your weekend. 

Where is the car show if you don't mind asking. 

Is it somewhere close where I could bring my lad and my blue baby..

[wayne ingham]

It is car and coffee on stefton street in Liverpool,just by the jaguar dealership,from about 9 o'clock to 12 o'clock 

just turn up park up and get a coffee from the Chinese restaurant 

the is also a meeting on a Monday night at the scotch piper in lydiate just outside Liverpool all makes of classic cars from around 6.30 till everyone gos home 

if you are interested motorcycles the same place on a Wednesday night depending on the weather for the meets 

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[BIG STU]

Thanks for letting me know. I appreciate it. I will hopefully see you there.

Cheers stuart. 

Just to let everyone know that I have now sold the engine and front timing cover. 

Thanks everyone for your support. 

Cheers stuart and jack. 

[opelnz]

Was it the polished GT rocker cover that you have sold? If still available, I would be interested. Hadn't seen this thread earlier, sorry