®evo03 718 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Oh, 70k is a full spec built car, you can buy blank new shells, not rolling, and you think wings are expensive! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jessopia74 1,211 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 13 hours ago, ®evo03 said: Oh, 70k is a full spec built car, you can buy blank new shells, not rolling, and you think wings are expensive! As much as we all love Mantas, doubt anyone one of us would pay £70K for a basic car. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cam.in.head 318 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 i remember years ago when the daewoo nexia came out,thinking there would now be a good source of parts for the astra mk2 ,but i assume they were not that well built as there are less nexias now than astras ! wonder if its the same here ? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
®evo03 718 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Last time i looked it was 27k for a mk2, or mk1 shell. Most are treated to all new panels, or another fortune spend kitcar specing it up to rally spec, completed by aged plate, if this doesnt drive prices up nothing will, for these and originals. So there is a 43k difference, between a shell, and complete car? Ok back to mantas, yeh, still same old, same old, you get what you pay for. 5 hours ago, cam.in.head said: i remember years ago when the daewoo nexia came out,thinking there would now be a good source of parts for the astra mk2 ,but i assume they were not that well built as there are less nexias now than astras ! wonder if its the same here ? Remember one of these new shells being used to build a gte! Nice move! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GTEPETE 347 Posted February 27 Author Share Posted February 27 Bespoke We can produce hand-finished, made-to-order classic car panels from almost any original panel, in low-volume runs from sheet steel or sheet aluminium. Please contact us to discuss your requirements. Panel Purchasing Do you have genuine new/old stock classic car panels for sale? If so, we would be interested in using these to expand our range of supported models. We can recreate panels that would allow other classic car restoration enthusiasts to keep their pride and joy motoring on into the future. If you have any panels that you would be interested in selling to us, please fill in the form below and we will get in contact with you. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheRealExile 470 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Been in touch with them and they seem decent people, snag is the process kills your original panel unless things have changed. I'd donate my rear quarter so long as I got a replacement from the press if anyone else wanted to join in we could get a whole range of panels done. I know the club were investigating but not sure how far they got. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
®evo03 718 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Ive been hearing about omoc club getting panels for years, don't think the panels will ever happen, ive new panels here, but would be in the same boat, would need a replacement and a guarantee of quality. Any idea on price for quarters, or quantity needed, number of batchs. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheRealExile 470 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 (edited) Let me know what you have and I'll get back in touch with them see what the pricing would be like etc. Didn't want to tread on any club toes of course if the process is already underway? Edited February 27 by TheRealExile 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Danny D114BCW 1,439 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 1 hour ago, TheRealExile said: Let me know what you have and I'll get back in touch with them see what the pricing would be like etc. Didn't want to tread on any club toes of course if the process is already underway? The old panel Re manufacture scenario........🙄 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheRealExile 470 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 1 minute ago, Danny D114BCW said: The old panel Re manufacture scenario........🙄 I thought someone was dealing with it at one point? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Danny D114BCW 1,439 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 They did and made an A series front panel 😂 won’t happen so crack on, it’s a major task and running the club is hard enough I imagine. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sutty2006 796 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 From what I remember the club had already bought a number of panels to have remade.....what happened to them? I know the club was in talks of getting panels remade, it was one topic discussed at one of the last AGMs I attended so it can’t get brushed under the carpet. If panels have been bought using club funds to help produce replacements it’s in club interest to continue that and should be brought back into play. Especially how shows and meets have been on hold for 12 months we should have been pressing this more while everyone is tinkering in their sheds, surely? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
®evo03 718 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 There will come a time when panels won't be needed, there are only so many unrestored cars out there that will get restored. Those figures will decline with time, a full restoration end up a garage queen, plaything, whatever you wanna call it think the panel thing is twenty years too late, its not viable to make tooling for 5 roof skins a year? What would make it viable, 20 roof skins a year? 40? What benefit is it being a omoc club member with original panels, that wants to buy a roof skin, opposed to joe public? I can't even get my OMOC membership changed, so i give up? Influencers get paid nowadays! Its some peoples income, career, Seems here you have a pay to be an influencer, the members are the club,.......how things have changed! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mike. 858 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 It would be great to see this form keeping a record of members completed manta projects every year so we could look back and see how many were returned to the road with mot, bet the numbers would be low. Just a quick tally count for reference at the start of “your project threads”. I completed my one in 2020 and put on an mot, first one since 1999, I looked on how many left and there were 14 1985 GT/E’s mot’d and I made that up to 15. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
execman 19 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 yes i saw this last week and thought the same thing: why cant this be done for the Manta? then I saw the £75k price tag... high quality workmanship though, very impressive. yes I saw this last week and was impressed; then I saw the £75k price tag... high quality workmanship however; very impressive. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
®evo03 718 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 At £75k you would be buying a manta with the equivalent newish modern GM engine, em, reconditioned running gear, modern brakes, electrics, dash clocks, etc, as per the mk2 escort. or the shell alone at £25k, to reshell your own, but this is my point, would it take £50k, to build a car up from the £25k shell, ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sutty2006 796 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Imagine buying a new shell for your manta. It’s take weeks to rust proof everywhere they’d missed on production before rebuilding! 🤣 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GTEPETE 347 Posted March 2 Author Share Posted March 2 12 hours ago, Sutty2006 said: Imagine buying a new shell for your manta. It’s take weeks to rust proof everywhere they’d missed on production before rebuilding! 🤣 If I recall, the standard Manta shell rust proofing was't great....Remember doing some preventative work on my 88 Exclusive when it was about 3 years old...under the front arches, found surface rust on A pillar and side bulkead A panel...did some scraping and found Opel had just undersealed straight over bare metal, so much for the dipping shown on the last Manta video! So annoyed I made a complaint to Vauxhalls, to be told don't worry, its covered by a 5 year anti perforation warranty....so spent the next 2 weeks primering the panels and painting with Smooth hammerite.... which has saved my panels...may explain why Exclusives rust away so easily... 5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
®evo03 718 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 That new manta shell wouldnt be made by opel, as is the mk2 isnt made by ford, dont even think it can be registered new Mantas are no different to any other car, its not about paint etc, its getting it sold, out the door, look at new bmw orange peel paint! The zinc dipping works to a certain degree, but not with salt, caked mud and constant wet humid environnent. Think the exclusives where stamped out with different grade of metal, mid 80s recession remember! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jessopia74 1,211 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 A lot of cars in the 80s suffered with really poor steel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sutty2006 796 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 12 hours ago, ®evo03 said: That new manta shell wouldnt be made by opel, as is the mk2 isnt made by ford, dont even think it can be registered new Mantas are no different to any other car, its not about paint etc, its getting it sold, out the door, look at new bmw orange peel paint! The zinc dipping works to a certain degree, but not with salt, caked mud and constant wet humid environnent. Think the exclusives where stamped out with different grade of metal, mid 80s recession remember! It is possible to get one registered new. I remember seeing a picture online of a red 70 plate mk2 escort. Must have had a DVLA vin number issued and enough proof to verify its age. Crazy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jessopia74 1,211 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 39 minutes ago, Sutty2006 said: It is possible to get one registered new. I remember seeing a picture online of a red 70 plate mk2 escort. Must have had a DVLA vin number issued and enough proof to verify its age. Crazy. I think the only way it would be registered new is if it was prototype car as no way would it pass the standards for 'new model' Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mike. 858 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Talking about the feasibility of new replacement panels being pressed and possibly not enough interest to make it work I seen this replacement carbon fibre roof skin, would this be a modern answer to all the rusty manta sun roofs out there? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jonathan Pounsett 102 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 There are lots of carbon fibre roof replacements on YouTube and if you’ve got the know-how and an autoclave it looks like a straight forward process. I bet if you were buying 10 or more of them you’d get them made for £600 to £800 each. I would offer one of my cars to make a mould but they both have sunroofs. Someone with a non sunroof car should investigate the cost of getting a GRP mould made up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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