Buz 176 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/147307350560421/ 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jessopia74 1,091 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Interesting Quote Link to post Share on other sites
starmist 108 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Don't mean to be rude, but he obviously doesn't want to sell it if that's the price he's after. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Danny D114BCW 1,377 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 52 minutes ago, starmist said: Don't mean to be rude, but he obviously doesn't want to sell it if that's the price he's after. Totally agree. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jessopia74 1,091 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 (edited) I see where you guys are coming from, however, If an unrestored 84GTE can fetch 20K, this is probably about right for initial asking to enable some haggle room. Selling around £27K. let's break it down a little at professional (collectors) prices for that GTE to put it to a similar condition. Car - £20K, Swan kneck ps and Panels replacement - £1K Respray (with extensive prep and small panel repairs to roof etc) - £4K Interior re-trim - £500 Engine refresh(partial rebuild) - £500 Obvisouly the GT/j has the boar anchor wit triple Webber's fitted, so that's around £900 of carbs + engine cost. Had this been a Capri 3.0s with triple Webber's in such a condition, no one would bat an eyelid at 30K asking, probably consider it cheap. Obviously something is only worth what the man is willing to pay for it, but in my experience you don't ask you don't get, as my Mrs reminds me very frequently 😁 Edited February 22 by Jessopia74 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
starmist 108 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 But it's not a 3 litre capri, it's a modified B which rightly or wrongly will never be as sought after as a 3.0 capri or even a standard gte exclusive. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Buz 176 Posted February 22 Author Share Posted February 22 (edited) I think both sides of the argument are right. If you compare it to the black auction coupe then the sale figure isn’t implausible, but I think if we are all realistic, how many of us would pay the sale price for this or the black coupe. The gtj is a beautiful car (in my opinion) and has won at shows , I would value it higher than the black coupe but nowhere near the asking price , maybe £12k , but that’s me , others would say different . Edited February 22 by Buz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
starmist 108 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 I'd agree...£12k tops 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jessopia74 1,091 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 27 minutes ago, starmist said: But it's not a 3 litre capri, it's a modified B which rightly or wrongly will never be as sought after as a 3.0 capri or even a standard gte exclusive. Well the market has shifted for definitely with collectors now looking at the coupes. My point is a 3.0s Capri at such a standard would be considered cheap at 30K and someone would snap their arm off. It's also not uncommon to find show condition coupes on the continent for well over €20K. I am sure Ford owners went through this pain years ago when the prices started to ramp up quickly, leaving many enthusiasts open jawed. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
starmist 108 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 £50k for a capri is ridiculous, no matter how nice. When I got back into Manta's in 2018 after 10 years out, it took alot of persuading to accept that a nice exclusive could be worth £7500...now look where we are 3 years later, discussing £20k+ GTE's and B's 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jessopia74 1,091 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Just now, starmist said: £50k for a capri is ridiculous, no matter how nice. It's not just Capri, Cosworth 3Doors are north of 60K(RS500 100K), Sapphires starting at £30K, mk1 Mexico's circa 50K, MK2 RS2000 unrestored £36K. Makes a Manta, that is arguably rarer, at 20K seem an entry point classic 😬 As I said, market has shifted. Maybe not sustainable and a bit if bubble for bored fingers with people having too much time to dream, but we are where we are atm. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
starmist 108 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 I'm well aware of Ford prices and I totally agree that even at current Manta prices, they make an excellent, affordable and very rare modern classic. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Buz 176 Posted February 22 Author Share Posted February 22 I’ve been looking for a mk1 Renault 5 2 door , I was offered a gordini turbo , that was stripped, the shell had been welded, needed engine rebuild and interior retrim..........£10k . Needed to buy one 10 years ago when they were Circa £1000 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jessopia74 1,091 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 4 minutes ago, Buz said: I’ve been looking for a mk1 Renault 5 2 door , I was offered a gordini turbo , that was stripped, the shell had been welded, needed engine rebuild and interior retrim..........£10k . Needed to buy one 10 years ago when they were Circa £1000 But what is it worth completed? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1200bandit 422 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Any car no matter what it is ,is only worth what someone is will to pay The back manta may have been a one off ,someone got very excited on the bidding Dos anyone know how got the £21,000 manta, are they going “what the f##k l have done “ Can get a clean Capri (1.6 ) for around the £4,000/ £ 5,000 mark 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jessopia74 1,091 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 11 minutes ago, 1200bandit said: Any car no matter what it is ,is only worth what someone is will to pay The back manta may have been a one off ,someone got very excited on the bidding Dos anyone know how got the £21,000 manta, are they going “what the f##k l have done “ Can get a clean Capri (1.6 ) for around the £4,000/ £ 5,000 mark It's not a be off mate, look back through the auctions and you will see the price trend. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1200bandit 422 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 The is a white manta for sale in lreland The manta is a 100% clean,just been restored The paint on the underside is just as good on the top side The brake pipes as all polished ect That manta going for £16,000 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
®evo03 690 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Car enthusiasts, or people with a good set of hands are a dying breed, so paying others to do it for them is the only option, this can be very costly. Which in turn affects value. Its not only mantas, opel, fords or some classic cars, its anything that is desirable to the buyer. Is there any classics that are depreciating right now? Mantas have a great competition history, which helps. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jessopia74 1,091 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 4 minutes ago, 1200bandit said: The is a white manta for sale in lreland The manta is a 100% clean,just been restored The paint on the underside is just as good on the top side The brake pipes as all polished ect That manta going for £16,000 Yeah, bring it to the U.K. and it's cheap, but don't forget VAT and the duty. So back to £20K mate 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Monaco Blue 547 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 18 hours ago, Buz said: https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/147307350560421/ Now removed unfortunately! I doubt it sold that quickly at £30K! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Danny D114BCW 1,377 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Maybe the drugs wore off 🤭😉 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
starmist 108 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 58 minutes ago, Danny D114BCW said: Maybe the drugs wore off 🤭😉 Or he came on here and read the comments. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Buz 176 Posted February 23 Author Share Posted February 23 I did contact him through Facebook to congratulate him on the car and out of courtesy to let him know I had posted a link to his ad on the forum . You never know , maybe somebody paid his price or maybe he changed his mind about selling . Good luck to him either way . Us oldies know that “you don’t get if you don’t ask”. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
®evo03 690 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Just outta interest, where did you see it advertised, 20 hours ago, 1200bandit said: The is a white manta for sale in lreland The manta is a 100% clean,just been restored The paint on the underside is just as good on the top side The brake pipes as all polished ect That manta going for £16,000 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1200bandit 422 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 It was not advertised. l put a wanted Opel manta on Facebook and got a reply As my Facebook things disappear after a bit Had a look but it not there Looked 100% mint Did get a few good leads , l am hopefully at getting a Opel Manta A after lockdown Will not be a done deal until l am standing in front of it and some cash has swap hands But things can change as we all know Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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