martin mtc Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Hi, would anyone know how I add the front anti roll bar bushes ? There are steel cups either end which feel welded on and won't move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Barrett Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Those ends do come off. Sadly that powder coat will have to come off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
611 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 The end of the rollbar are splined and from what i remember from when i did mine get pulled into the bush when you tighten the bolt up from the front of the lower arm. Those end ones don't look like the original ones fitted either? Think i have a spare new one i can take a pic of if needed. Andy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Barrett Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Give them a wallop, run a blade round behind them to cut the powder coat to prevent losing it. Pop the mounts in some hot water to soften for a while then silicon grease up and struggle them on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
611 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Paul Barrett said: Those ends do come off. Sadly that powder coat will have to come off Its also fun getting those bushes on 🙂 especially with that powder coating. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Barrett Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, 611 said: Its also fun getting those bushes on 🙂 especially with that powder coating. Powder coat is not the best to the bars in. I used epoxy quite thin. Still a pain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
611 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Paul Barrett said: Powder coat is not the best to the bars in. I used epoxy quite thin. Still a pain I painted mine after i put the bushes on 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin mtc Posted March 15, 2023 Author Share Posted March 15, 2023 Thanks guys , I gave it a bit of a hit without any heat , I will try again tomorrow with some heat. The other bush I have is also too small in diameter ( bought from DR. Manta ) Anti roll bar is Ø22mm and the bushes are Ø17mm , are these just a tight fit once the ends are off , so I can slide them on ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
611 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 30 minutes ago, martin mtc said: Thanks guys , I gave it a bit of a hit without any heat , I will try again tomorrow with some heat. The other bush I have is also too small in diameter ( bought from DR. Manta ) Anti roll bar is Ø22mm and the bushes are Ø17mm , are these just a tight fit once the ends are off , so I can slide them on ? They slide on but are very tight. As Paul says, warm them up and use some nice silicon grease until they get closer to where they need to be and then force them into the right place. They are supposed to be tight so you don't get movement on the anti-roll bar, but it makes them a bit of a bugger to get on. Those ends do come off you just need a bit of time and patience, like most things Manta related 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin mtc Posted March 16, 2023 Author Share Posted March 16, 2023 I got one of the ends off 👍 Next up the rubbers in some hot water 💧 😋 Thanks lads 👍👌👊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin mtc Posted March 16, 2023 Author Share Posted March 16, 2023 Thanks lads 👍 All back on 👌 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Barrett Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Good man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin mtc Posted March 16, 2023 Author Share Posted March 16, 2023 I need help with some front anti roll bar bushes and some rear anti roll bar bushes. Non in Germany ( Dr Manta) and TJ Motorsport. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessopia74 Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Good info chaps, presumably this is exactly the job Iwill face in the future for me]y AsconaA ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
611 Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 3 hours ago, martin mtc said: I need help with some front anti roll bar bushes and some rear anti roll bar bushes. Non in Germany ( Dr Manta) and TJ Motorsport. You might struggle on those front ones. https://atz-online.com/p/opel-mantaascona-a-lagerbuchse-an-lenker-untenstabiaufnahme/ https://www.opelgtsource.com/search/3094/details The rear you should be able to get here. https://www.o-t-r.de/produkt-kategorie/ascona-manta-a/hinterachse-ascona-manta-a-2/ 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin mtc Posted March 16, 2023 Author Share Posted March 16, 2023 Hi, If someone had the sizes ( or a drawing) then I can get some made from Polyurothene. Antone else interested? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rutts Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 34 minutes ago, martin mtc said: Hi, If someone had the sizes ( or a drawing) then I can get some made from Polyurothene. Antone else interested? Definatly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Barrett Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 http://www.ysn.de/EnglischeVersion/start2-english.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
611 Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 1 hour ago, martin mtc said: Hi, If someone had the sizes ( or a drawing) then I can get some made from Polyurothene. Antone else interested? Would poly not be too stiff for these? 34 minutes ago, Paul Barrett said: http://www.ysn.de/EnglischeVersion/start2-english.htm Link seems broken? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Barrett Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 I agree andy, for a road car. Unless you can get a very soft shore rating of poly. move a mix of poly and standard. Just about ok. Try www.ysn.de Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
611 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) 22 hours ago, Paul Barrett said: I agree andy, for a road car. Unless you can get a very soft shore rating of poly. move a mix of poly and standard. Just about ok. Try www.ysn.de Do you think if that one was poly and not flexible that it would put a strain on other parts like those supporting roll bar bushes as it needs a bit of flex in it. I ran with the poly on the upper and lower arms but kept with rubber for the anti roll bar. Edited March 17, 2023 by 611 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Barrett Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 I don’t think it would cause much damage but rather be a horrible ride. I’ve ran full Polly on a track car in my early twenties and it was awful on the road, rattles like hell everywhere lol.but fantastic on track 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessopia74 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Guess it depends on the rigidity of it, some are close to OEM (black?) shore hardness. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
611 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Paul Barrett said: I don’t think it would cause much damage but rather be a horrible ride. I’ve ran full Polly on a track car in my early twenties and it was awful on the road, rattles like hell everywhere lol.but fantastic on track Mine is pretty hard with the setup i have. Mine you the council only repair the roads to be fit for the big off road things these days! When i finally get the little yellow car up and running this year, that is harsh as that is full Polly with Koni spring, shocks and lowered! Edited March 17, 2023 by 611 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin mtc Posted March 18, 2023 Author Share Posted March 18, 2023 On 17/03/2023 at 20:52, 611 said: Do you think if that one was poly and not flexible that it would put a strain on other parts like those supporting roll bar bushes as it needs a bit of flex in it. I ran with the poly on the upper and lower arms but kept with rubber for the anti roll bar. My friend can make it the same shore hardness as the originals , we just need a diagram with sizes to make the tooling . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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