stagcar Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Hi All, |I have got the engine and gearbox in and fitted ok but the starter seems to just bind on the steering shaft I have got a new smaller one from real steal but this has its solenoide in the wrong place and is even worse the the old landy one i have tryed moving the engine over to the pasanger side a bit but then it leaves no room for an exhaust manifold to go in Has anyone messed with the steering drive to make it clear? i was thinking about removing the rubber coupling and replacing it with a UJ and use a sliding shaft arangment like what is used in the vectra's any way it is coming along nicely now i have done a lot of the mot welding its just a shame it got in this state in the first place! I gave the car to my sister about 10 years ago she used it for about 3 then it failed its mot kand just sat on there farm rusting so its in a bad way holes in the roof the works i will post some pics and stuff in the my project soon its not prety tho Thanks Again Derek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garrycroft Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 (edited) Hi, i put an 8 into an A where there is a lot less room - if i recall i used a range rover starter as that was shorter and hid teh solenoid away in a bettter place. there's plenty out there that have done b's so i'm sure you'll ge a solid answer soon :-) Hi All, |I have got the engine and gearbox in and fitted ok but the starter seems to just bind on the steering shaft I have got a new smaller one from real steal but this has its solenoide in the wrong place and is even worse the the old landy one i have tryed moving the engine over to the pasanger side a bit but then it leaves no room for an exhaust manifold to go in Has anyone messed with the steering drive to make it clear? i was thinking about removing the rubber coupling and replacing it with a UJ and use a sliding shaft arangment like what is used in the vectra's any way it is coming along nicely now i have done a lot of the mot welding its just a shame it got in this state in the first place! I gave the car to my sister about 10 years ago she used it for about 3 then it failed its mot kand just sat on there farm rusting so its in a bad way holes in the roof the works i will post some pics and stuff in the my project soon its not prety tho Thanks Again Derek Edited November 24, 2009 by garrycroft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opel2000 Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Aha I remember this problem I had a knackered starter with the solenoid in the correct position and a good starter with the solenoid fouling the steering shaft, after about a day of trying to p1ss about using the 2 to make one that would work and give the clearance i needed I simply ended up getting one of those tiny hi-torque starters from Rimmer Brothers had a piccy of it somewhere with a packet of Rothmans on top of it and the starter wasn't that much bigger than the fag packet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stagcar Posted November 24, 2009 Author Share Posted November 24, 2009 Aha I remember this problem I had a knackered starter with the solenoid in the correct position and a good starter with the solenoid fouling the steering shaft, after about a day of trying to p1ss about using the 2 to make one that would work and give the clearance i needed I simply ended up getting one of those tiny hi-torque starters from Rimmer Brothers had a piccy of it somewhere with a packet of Rothmans on top of it and the starter wasn't that much bigger than the fag packet. Hi Mate Sounds like the way to go i will give them a call in the morning I have been looking on the ebay but its hard to see what they are layed out like anyway good old real steel are taking the wrong one back for a refund Cheers Derek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick-Manta Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 I had a standard Rover SD1 starter which cleared the steering column by 'quite a bit' so perhaps even without having to buy the smaller jobs (which would be a good idea anyway as I think they're a more modern higher torque type which is more reliable if say you're battery is low or small) there are other starters that fit from other RV8 cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stagcar Posted November 26, 2009 Author Share Posted November 26, 2009 Thanks chaps I have got one from Rimmer brothers (name still brings a smile) It wasen't cheep at £220 deliverd but it looks like the way to go and it is very small so with a bit of luck i can space the pasanger side engine mount and bring the engine a bit more central alowing me to fit the p5 headers if not it will be block hugger time and another £150 quid LOL Thanks again for the help I may even get around to starting it i built the engine about 3 years ago and it hasent been run yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick-Manta Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I have got one from Rimmer brothers (name still brings a smile) Yeah, they were pretty naive to call their company that. Unless of course it's a hint of what they get up to sometimes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stagcar Posted November 27, 2009 Author Share Posted November 27, 2009 Yeah, they were pretty naive to call their company that. Unless of course it's a hint of what they get up to sometimes! LOL it makes you wonder Any way it showed up today very nice it is to here is a pic of it with a pound coin on top Cheers For the help Derek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opel2000 Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 Tell you what mate, after having so much grief myself with the RV8 starter it was an absolute godsend just to ring up Rimmer's and get a brand spanking new tiny little thing delivered that I just simply knew "Not gonna have any probs with that" And the size of these starters is just so damn sexy you get tempted to find an orifice ........ Hmmm Rimmers Bros eh? Good to know you got sorted, and just been looking at your project too, all good stuff mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEPETE Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 Another plus point with a new starter is that its unlikely to go wrong, as I imagine it would be difficult to change insitu. When I converted my HB Viva to V8 in the 80's, I had a similar problem with the rubber joint/starter interference so I spaced out the steering rack forwards which in effect lengthened the steering shaft, so the joint ended up in was in front of the starter starter....out of interest, my engine came out of a P6, 10.5 to 1 CR, with reversed coupe manifolds.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stagcar Posted November 30, 2009 Author Share Posted November 30, 2009 Tell you what mate, after having so much grief myself with the RV8 starter it was an absolute godsend just to ring up Rimmer's and get a brand spanking new tiny little thing delivered that I just simply knew "Not gonna have any probs with that" And the size of these starters is just so damn sexy you get tempted to find an orifice ........ Hmmm Rimmers Bros eh? Good to know you got sorted, and just been looking at your project too, all good stuff mate LOL i got it deliverd to work and got accused of getting to horny with it when i got it out the box! my work pals just diden't understand how i could find it so sexy. cheers for the good words mate has brought a smile to my face on this gloomy monday morning. Another plus point with a new starter is that its unlikely to go wrong, as I imagine it would be difficult to change insitu. When I converted my HB Viva to V8 in the 80's, I had a similar problem with the rubber joint/starter interference so I spaced out the steering rack forwards which in effect lengthened the steering shaft, so the joint ended up in was in front of the starter starter....out of interest, my engine came out of a P6, 10.5 to 1 CR, with reversed coupe manifolds.. Looks cool mate. good old high comp p6 engines are a nice starting point i recon shame i ended up with a low comp landy still will be good for supercharging or NOS:lol: I am also going with p5 manifolds reversed seems the cheepest and the easyest way to go Cheers Derek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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