mazdarazmattaz Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Ok so maybe it was a little much to expect to be able to just put a fresh battery and fuel in and have it start............... Anyway long story short, i took the manta off the road a few years ago when the fuel damper sprang a leak and started spraying fuel all over the back axle, then i lost job and gf etc and just left the manta for too long..... Can anyone give me a few idiots guides/pointers, tricks to getting her to live again? in laymans terms please. I have left the damper out put a fresh battery on and refueled. She turns over but wont start (lucky my engine hasnt seized?), im guessing im still having a fueling problem. If i cant solve this myself i might have to resort to bribery if anyone lives in the cheshire area? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiney_norman Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Start by making sure you've got fuel at the rail, wouldn't surprise me if the fuel pump relay was dead. Is there a spark? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upk Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Where in Cheshire? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazdarazmattaz Posted November 5, 2014 Author Share Posted November 5, 2014 The car is stored in Crewe I was gonna get my brother to have a look, and failing that maybe i can bribe some help from here? Im not very mechanicaly minded when it comes to cars, the three mantas i have owned previously have all just worked so i guess i have been lucky so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazdarazmattaz Posted November 5, 2014 Author Share Posted November 5, 2014 i havent been able to check spark yet because im on my own, im guessing that the problem will be either electrical or fuel delivery as theres not much else is there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mantadoc Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 i havent been able to check spark yet because im on my own, Yep definitely don't leave the ignition on and use a length of wire with a spade on to trigger the starter solenoid 2P trick, run the fuel pump and make sure that works. Pat on here is in Crewe he might be able to help. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazdarazmattaz Posted November 5, 2014 Author Share Posted November 5, 2014 Forgive me but what's the 2p trick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazdarazmattaz Posted November 5, 2014 Author Share Posted November 5, 2014 Oh yea in laymans terms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitzi Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 bridge the top of fuse 6+7 wi yer 2p should start pump and pump ur fuel m8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazdarazmattaz Posted November 5, 2014 Author Share Posted November 5, 2014 OK I'm game, what should this look like if I'm doing it correctly? Anyone got a quick snap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazdarazmattaz Posted November 5, 2014 Author Share Posted November 5, 2014 No worries I just found a pic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazdarazmattaz Posted November 5, 2014 Author Share Posted November 5, 2014 Update, the 2p trick definetly gets the pump spinning, can hear whirring and sloshing. No start yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne ingham Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Get some brake spray (used for cleaning brake shoes ect) Remove the air filter spray into air filter housings (not to much) Then crank engine ,we get engines going all the time this way, the engine will run for short time but it give you clue on what's wrong (fule/spark) ect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robah Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 The car is stored in Crewe I was gonna get my brother to have a look, and failing that maybe i can bribe some help from here? Im not very mechanicaly minded when it comes to cars, the three mantas i have owned previously have all just worked so i guess i have been lucky so far. I work in Crewe off Wistaston Road, Junction for DB Schenker CW2. I can make arrangements to assist if required. Regards Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazdarazmattaz Posted November 7, 2014 Author Share Posted November 7, 2014 thanks for the tip wayne, will try next time. thanks for the offer rob, if me and my bro fail, will hit you up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mantadoc Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 You got there nut here is the long version http://forums.mantaclub.org/topic/12777-injection-relay-limp-home/ FYI injectors do not fire if you have no spark so before anything else check you have a good spark and that turning the ignition on makes the rev counter twitch, because the green wire from coil amplifier it the one the fuel injection reads. As per earlier post #6 checking spark is a one man job anyway. If there is no spark, first things to do are check for ignition live on the black wire and if that's there undo the male and female green wire and put the green from the coil pack on the coil, if it sparks then, then cool, of course the injection won't work like that but you know what the prob most likely is................. Bodge test http://forums.mantaclub.org/topic/18829-another-can-of-worms/page-12 And fix http://forums.mantaclub.org/topic/18829-another-can-of-worms/page-13 Of course my favourite way to test the coil pack is with a spare dizzy............ http://www.atcy66.dsl.pipex.com/misc/Dizzy.wmv http://www.atcy66.dsl.pipex.com/misc/DizzyCoilAmpStandAlone.wmv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazdarazmattaz Posted November 9, 2014 Author Share Posted November 9, 2014 thanks again for more tips. Hoping to have enough time to have another go sunday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 cant help today but ask and i will try to pop over thru the week or next weekend , where in crewe? , i'm near leighton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazdarazmattaz Posted November 10, 2014 Author Share Posted November 10, 2014 you have a pm pat thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 replied mate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazdarazmattaz Posted November 12, 2014 Author Share Posted November 12, 2014 ok another update, i found 2 additional fuel leaks . One is rubber hose into fuel rail and another in what i think is the fuel filter back in the fuel pump assembly. Annoying because i thought i had solved all the problems there......another 5 pounds worth of unleaded on the floor! One good thing though, i heard it fire on one cylinder, which means im getting spark ect, so once iv solved fueling issues in theory it ought to go (if i dont set fire to myself first). I bought enough fuel line last time to replace them all as its just going to come out at the next weakest link, hard to get at some because the cars stuck in a small garage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazdarazmattaz Posted November 12, 2014 Author Share Posted November 12, 2014 I suppose there's worse ways to go than burning to death in a manta funeral pyre...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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