Perywinkle Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 Going to be upping the grunt from my 16v A series to around 200bhp soon, and fancy a lsd to go with it! Is there much available for the Manta? What type do you lot think are best for a fast road car? Plate? viscous? geared? Cheers Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mantaray Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 Going to be upping the grunt from my 16v A series to around 200bhp soon, and fancy a lsd to go with it! Is there much available for the Manta? What type do you lot think are best for a fast road car? Plate? viscous? geared? Cheers Ben There are only really 2 options. 1 ZF (plate)-- Can't get new only used. expect to pay £500+ if you can find one. 2 Quafe (geared)--- Buy new from Quafe, around £800 I have been told that the ZF is more forgiving and that the Quafe can grab a bit. I'm sure others will put me right if they disagree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mantasrme Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 Don't forget Gripper Diffs Gripper They're plate diffs like the old ZF but slightly better in design. Also as they are designed around just 3sizes of internals (small, medium, large) they allways have a large stock of parts on their shelves. So no issue in getting replacement plates (which is where ZF fall down having individually designed plates for each individual diff) They have been offering a manta diff since the start of the year (well i picked mine up in december actually) Its not cheap at a listed price of £650+vat+delivery I managed to arrange a deal on mine But we'd been talking to them about the design and helping with a standard diff to get measurements off. So the first one of the production run is in my car, and i'm very happy with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Power Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 (edited) Going to be upping the grunt from my 16v A series to around 200bhp soon, and fancy a lsd to go with it! Is there much available for the Manta? What type do you lot think are best for a fast road car? Plate? viscous? geared? Cheers Ben ello ello ello are yoe the same Pezza from Locostbuilders?? If so, I'm NS Dev from the very same!!! A pretty indestructible option, and cheap, though not a 5 min job, is to use a Salisbury 4HA axle. if you look on my website, www.retropower.co.uk and have a look at the kadett turbo project you'll see one in a kadett. Its the narrower one in that, the good news is the wider one is actually easier to find, as its from a Reliant Scimitar GTE (SE6 model, the narrow one is SE5) Width wise its bang on, and the jag powr loc diff goes straight in and these are dirt cheap. The 5 link isn't a 5 min job but then its not massive either, I did the link boxes and axle brackets etc for the kadett in 2 days. You can do the lot for the price of a manta lsd and the 4ha is easy good for 500hp (we're putting 400 through it and drag racing and its not broken yet, whereas a manta axle with welded diff broke at every event!! ) Anyway, prob a bit OTT for a road car but you'll never break it again! PS obviously the really cheap option is just to weld the stock diff up. I did this on the kadett when it was on the manta axle, at the owner's request and much to my protest that it would be crap on the road, but actually it was fine, only a pain when trying to push it by hand around a corner into his garage! Edited September 16, 2009 by Retro Power Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perywinkle Posted September 19, 2009 Author Share Posted September 19, 2009 Don't forget Gripper Diffs Cheers I'll keep 'em in mind ello ello ello are yoe the same Pezza from Locostbuilders?? If so, I'm NS Dev from the very same!!! Heya mate, tis indeed me Cheers for the info, could come in handy at a later date as eventualy i'd like to get a chevy ls lump in there. That's a few years down the road yet though as we are currently house hunting :s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendy Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 Don't forget Gripper Diffs Gripper They're plate diffs like the old ZF but slightly better in design. Also as they are designed around just 3sizes of internals (small, medium, large) they allways have a large stock of parts on their shelves. So no issue in getting replacement plates (which is where ZF fall down having individually designed plates for each individual diff) They have been offering a manta diff since the start of the year (well i picked mine up in december actually) Its not cheap at a listed price of £650+vat+delivery I managed to arrange a deal on mine But we'd been talking to them about the design and helping with a standard diff to get measurements off. So the first one of the production run is in my car, and i'm very happy with it. HMMMMM interesting! I was going to ask this question soon as ill be starting my rear axle. I sort of had my heart set on a quaife but as said it might not be the best locking action it provides in a rear drive set up. Are the gripper diffs plate type and do they fit straight into the 1800 axle?? If so i wouldnt mind paying the price for one, better than waiting for a burnt out old ZF for 5-600 quid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ems Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 (edited) I think TJM are now making ZF type lsd's for the Manta Edited September 19, 2009 by Ems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJM Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 Hi I am not making full diffs (ZF) but can get replacement plates and have a number of spares in stock (NOS ZF). I can also supply the Gripper with a bit of discount. Regards Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEPETE Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 Fitting an LSD transforms handling, especially if you have more than 200bhp, and makes for better traction in the wet on bends...well worth saving your pennies for one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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