Mrbus Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Found a ascona B strutbrace pretty cheap made by OMP, Part number is MA1673 If it dont fit does anyone know where i can get 1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason b Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 slight aside... is there really much point fitting a strut brace to a manta/ascona/cav shell other than for looks? - the turrets only locate the dampers and thus are not really subject to any lateral forces... though this is only a 2 second observation of mine and not actually been given any thought. Afraid I can't be of any help regarding the OMP brace though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mantadoc Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 slight aside... is there really much point fitting a strut brace to a manta/ascona/cav shell other than for looks? - the turrets only locate the dampers and thus are not really subject to any lateral forces... though this is only a 2 second observation of mine and not actually been given any thought. Been thinking that for years.................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maher the hermit Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 I would say it will fit it has the same inner wings as a manta b/c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keith1200 Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 (edited) They are used for rallying 'i believe' other than that! useful if you alter/remove the front cross-member (fitting a 6 cylinder cih) also good for major chassis leg work etc OR for impressing your m8's and teenage girls. Similar usefulness as black tyre paint [edit] I'm just joking def something to do with motor-sports 'I believe' Edited August 10, 2010 by keith1200 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbus Posted August 10, 2010 Author Share Posted August 10, 2010 I fought they help to bring the camber angle back inwards to reduce tyre wear when lowering your car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbus Posted August 10, 2010 Author Share Posted August 10, 2010 Also im halfway through a XE conversion. Is the propshaft the same length in the 1.8 box to my 2.0 gte box? Im guessing it is as nobody has said about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christ Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 I fought they help to bring the camber angle back inwards to reduce tyre wear when lowering your car? not on a manta the ascona OMP strut brace fits the manta B with an OHC engine, just - if you've got a CIH or, as I guess from your above post, the XE it won't fit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason b Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 (edited) nope.... - unless you have fitted super uber high rate dampers then I can't see that the strut brace will do anything noticible tbh. On a car like my peugeot 106 rally car then yes, because the strut tops are a locator for the suspension (though even then I prefer just to plate them with 6mm forest spec plates rather than brace ) and thus take all the sprung force and a component of lateral loading from the suspension geometry. A manta/cav/ascona has all of it's suspension fitted to the subframe and only the dampers mount to the body. As dampers are velocity dependent then only on a big impact will they significantly* load the shell (not likely to happen really, as the load should be directed upward and not laterally.) I would almost wonder if by drilling four M10 holes in each strut top you are weakening them by the same extent that the brace is "strengthening" them.... Don't always look at rally guys for the best tips, as many things that are done on a rally car have little translation to on road and mild track setups. However, for show and shine pimpness then sure they make the engine bay look like it means business - heck even I have a chrome one that I got free with a gearbox and manifold that fits on the CIH 6cyl swap. that I'll probably fit because it looks cool On that note, am I one of the few who has not modified the front crossmember (or indeed chassis full stop) when fitting the 6pot CIH lump? I have a rad and 16" electric fan up inside the nosecone and the front valance still fits *your opinion of significantly hitting a bump probably differs from mine Edited August 10, 2010 by Jason b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mantadoc Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Or to put it simply............. Why fit a STRUT brace on a car without any STRUTS *your opinion of significantly hitting a bump probably differs from mine Unless you've landed that hard on your nose you've put your nudge bar 8" into the ground it probably does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallycinq Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Don't diss us rallybois innit!! Even the full house Group B Mantas didn't have a brace between the damper top mounts. Cheers David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbus Posted August 10, 2010 Author Share Posted August 10, 2010 Ok nice one. I wont go that route then. Was only going to as i thought it would improve the geometry. Does anyone want 1. Its £15 plus £10 p+p on the bay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christ Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 this one... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OPEL-ASCONA-B-MANTA-16V-OMP-FRONT-STRUTBRACE-MA1673-/250677227193?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3a5d86eeb9#ht_500wt_725 I take back what i said - that's not the OMP ascona/manta strut brace I was thinking of, the one they used to sell was virtually straight with a plate with two bolt holes each end still can't see that fitting a manta though, the area round the turrets is not flat enough to mount it to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason b Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 (edited) Don't diss us rallybois innit!! Even the full house Group B Mantas didn't have a brace between the damper top mounts. Cheers David hehe, quite the opposite - I myself am a rally boi! Thing is I am the penniless type of student rally boi doing club level stuff, so my 106 rally car only has the bits that actually make a difference to performance and safety and I have to give things some thought before I purchase. The amount of cars I've seen when marshalling stage events which have extraneous tat bolted on to them is quite amusing! @ Mantadoc - I've hit a hole hard enough in the 106 to put both rear wheels into the boot.... - fairly terrifying at the time!! - not including subsequently writing it off into a very very solid object... sad really, I loved that car so much and only got to drive it for a year or so Edited August 10, 2010 by Jason b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mantadoc Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Mantadoc - I've hit a hole hard enough in the 106 to put both rear wheels into the boot.... Obviously not as good a car as a Kadett C then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 (edited) this one... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OPEL-ASCONA-B-MANTA-16V-OMP-FRONT-STRUTBRACE-MA1673-/250677227193?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3a5d86eeb9#ht_500wt_725 I take back what i said - that's not the OMP ascona/manta strut brace I was thinking of, the one they used to sell was virtually straight with a plate with two bolt holes each end still can't see that fitting a manta though, the area round the turrets is not flat enough to mount it to This strut brace is to fit a Suzuki swift Gti according the OMP catalogue. The Ascona brace, although called a strut brace actually bolts to the inner wings (part number MA1534) Edited August 14, 2010 by jasonj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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