RetroRob Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Just ordered a new waterpump and think I've been sent the wrong one Qcp2100 Quinton Hazell , the new one has 4 bolt holes where the fan sits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike. Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Hi RetroRob, this is the Quinton Hazel water pump I have recently purchased for my 2.0E Cih, looks like you have the wrong part number, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutty2006 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 If yours has 4 bolt holes that’s an early one for solid fan drive. Don’t bin it though, might come in useful for someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroRob Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share Posted January 23, 2022 11 hours ago, Mike. said: Hi RetroRob, this is the Quinton Hazel water pump I have recently purchased for my 2.0E Cih, looks like you have the wrong part number, Yes thats the pump I need 👍 thanks for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEPETE Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 For high performance engines 2.0/2.4 , I was told by UK Irmscher, they used the earlier steel bladed impellor water pump as has better flow than the standard cast one with a viscous fan...I have been using them on my turbo'd engine with an electric fan for a number of years...maybe owners of i200s and i240s can confirm this? (They also told me they used a Manta 400 Sach thrust bearing on the i200 and i240s....but I lost the part number.. ) https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/284399011819?fits=Car+Make%3AOpel|Model%3AManta&hash=item42378087eb:g:EccAAOSwGUVhdqru 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-400 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 To improve the waterpump I used to fit the pulley of a 6cilinder. Those pulleys are smaller so the pump runs faster. You can buy those pulleys in the Edelschmiede shop: https://www.edelschmiede.com/shop/navi.php?a=2098&lang=eng Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEPETE Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, H-400 said: To improve the waterpump I used to fit the pulley of a 6cilinder. Those pulleys are smaller so the pump runs faster. You can buy those pulleys in the Edelschmiede shop: https://www.edelschmiede.com/shop/navi.php?a=2098&lang=eng Interesting Herman, I guess this is the pulley you need when fitting a Manta water pump to a 2.4 Frontera engine which has a larger diameter toothed crank pulley..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cam.in.head Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 no harm fitting an earlier waterpump realy as the fixed fan is a definate benefit over the later viscous and temp comtrolled viscous which can loose their efficiency in time causing overheating in traffic .yes a slight noise increase ( but its a nice noise !) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irmscher Man Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 On 23/01/2022 at 10:29, GTEPETE said: For high performance engines 2.0/2.4 , I was told by UK Irmscher, they used the earlier steel bladed impellor water pump as has better flow than the standard cast one with a viscous fan...I have been using them on my turbo'd engine with an electric fan for a number of years...maybe owners of i200s and i240s can confirm this? I have just stripped down an original 30k mile i200 engine recently, so I was interested to see what water pump had been fitted, as this engine hasn't been touched since 1985! It was in fact the standard GT/E impeller for the year, so not the steel bladed one. You are right though Pete - Tom May at Irmscher advised me that the earlier pump had a better flow and then recommended that I bought a new one whilst they were still available.....so I bought a couple! They were fitted as an upgrade rather than from new I think. I've worked on a few i200 engines over the years and never found one fitted from new. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEPETE Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Irmscher Man said: I have just stripped down an original 30k mile i200 engine recently, so I was interested to see what water pump had been fitted, as this engine hasn't been touched since 1985! It was in fact the standard GT/E impeller for the year, so not the steel bladed one. You are right though Pete - Tom May at Irmscher advised me that the earlier pump had a better flow and then recommended that I bought a new one whilst they were still available.....so I bought a couple! They were fitted as an upgrade rather than from new I think. I've worked on a few i200 engines over the years and never found one fitted from new. Thanks Paul, yes it was Tom May..I saw him at Chatsworth house in the 90's...remember the V12 Manta A was there too...he also told me they used 2.3 diesel valve springs in the i engines and I believe the diesel oil pressure relief housing...also remember he found out from someone there that a rare Manta 400, that he had a connection with had been bought by someone for the price of a standard Manta through the back door.....apparently he got it back obo Vauxhalls... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-400 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 All interesting info about those impellors. Gonna try to pull a steel one from a worn pump to check if they fit on a recent one. The latest pump I bought had even plastic impellors the same shape as the cast ones. The diesel bottom plate on the oil pump is something I use for decades, but they are rare these days. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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