Sutty2006 Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 Think I’ve got a problem 🤦♂️ This door is too long. Can only think that it’s a hatch door not a coupe? Bought them years ago listed as a coupe, but probably aren’t. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
®evo03 Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 What is the wing like up at the headlight. Is wing genuine? Everything could be back a few mm. Hinges would drive door back. Measure both door gaps. Both sides. Back edge of wing is £1 thickness to door.£1 gap between wing and door. Some doors sit out at bottom back edge. Seen this on a coupe, and it was suspect hatch doors? Never tried them TBH. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutty2006 Posted September 23 Author Share Posted September 23 5 minutes ago, ®evo03 said: What is the wing like up at the headlight. Is wing genuine? Everything could be back a few mm. Hinges would drive door back. Measure both door gaps. Both sides. Back edge of wing is £1 thickness to door.£1 gap between wing and door. Some doors sit out at bottom back edge. Seen this on a coupe, and it was suspect hatch doors? Never tried them TBH. The dark blue door fitted perfectly. Hinges haven’t moved between me swapping doors over. It looks a country mile off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 The doors are the same hatch and coupe. It's only the door glass that's different. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutty2006 Posted September 24 Author Share Posted September 24 I wonder if the hinges are bent forwards then 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 Something is out. I've fitted coupe doors to hatches and hatch doors to coupes in the past. Never had an issue. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutty2006 Posted September 24 Author Share Posted September 24 Got to have to check the length when I get home. And the hinges. But the panel gap between the door and the wing is good, and I don’t think it needs to be any further forward else it’ll foul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cam.in.head Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 cant find the post now as its very old but im sure years ago a member reported a similar situation except opposite way round .maybee a mr snowy ? where he had a door that was way too short ? and it was possibly an early door on a later car but i must admit ive swapped doirs over the years and not had this issue . YET ! i may be mistaken but i seem to remember something ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cam.in.head Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 (edited) also is it the entire door thats too long or just the inner section thats touching ? are they different shape or has the door had any repairs in the past that are making it wrong ?? Edited September 24 by cam.in.head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanG Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 1 hour ago, cam.in.head said: cant find the post now as its very old but im sure years ago a member reported a similar situation except opposite way round .maybee a mr snowy ? where he had a door that was way too short ? and it was possibly an early door on a later car but i must admit ive swapped doirs over the years and not had this issue . YET ! i may be mistaken but i seem to remember something ? Found the post bumped it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutty2006 Posted September 25 Author Share Posted September 25 It looks like the dark blue door has been battered with a big hammer at the back. Which probably explains why it fits well.. hard to tell in these pictures but by eye you can definitely tell. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessopia74 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 That could be impact damage? Did the wing mount ok? I think I would be checking distance between the wing back edge and the B post with a tape measure on both sides. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
®evo03 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 If the front or the inner wing has moved back, even less than 10mm, it's enough on a door hinge. They probably moved the hinges back and adjusted the back edge of door, with a door adjuster ⚒️ 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cam.in.head Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 or you could be looking at this the total opposite . and its the light blue door thats damaged . hard to tell completely from pictures but the light blue door does look to curve out a lot at the side of the lock .maybee compare it to the other side . maybee it just needs "persuading back in " and may fit fine gap wise once its past that point ?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
®evo03 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 Good point CIH. It does look swelled, could be rust issues inside. Could be the issue. Weirdly lock mechanism looks twisted too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cam.in.head Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 definately . looking at mine last night as a comparison that area is very flat more like the dark blue door . dont think its double skinned in that area so the other door may just tap back in straight . its very hard when only looking at pictures . im sure the owner will know the best way to go and reshape ( or repair the other door) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Abbott Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 Doors are the same. Hatch glass is 10mm bigger than coupe at the rear edge so it doesn’t fit coupes. Also I learned from Dave in Scotland that the “ hockey” sticks on coupe and hatch are different as they have different part numbers! Weird. Some people say irmscher rear bumpers are hatch/coupe specific too but I’ve never found that to be true. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 The hockey sticks are different. You can however grind down a hatch one to fit a coupe as the hatch ones are slightly bigger. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessopia74 Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 2 hours ago, Vince said: The hockey sticks are different. You can however grind down a hatch one to fit a coupe as the hatch ones are slightly bigger. A good bit of info that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutty2006 Posted September 27 Author Share Posted September 27 Yeah the light blue door does look a little “swollen” at the back. I’m also convinced that if I hammer that surface area in to fit, there will be a bigger than anticipated gap at the front. So maybe the hinges are bent forward slightly. I’ve checked the drivers door, and that rear catch surface is completely flat. So like you lot have suggested, this light blue rot free door might be going for scrap 🤦♂️😭 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cam.in.head Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 woh not so fast ! lol it depends if the door is otherwise sound and the damaged area is not rotted and can be simply tapped back into shape and skimmed. vs repairing the other door . its not at all unusual to fit different doors and have to adjust the hinges even if you swapped them from a perfectly aligning car to another. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
®evo03 Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 Start with the wing, maybe its pattern therefore throwing the door back, they may have adjusted the hinges to fit, whatever door was fitted previously. Forward. The blue door looks worked on, wing edge and B post edge. But make it fit. Worth the effort if sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutty2006 Posted September 29 Author Share Posted September 29 This doors been kicked to s**t. The latch still had the catch and the metal retainer behind the b pillar attached. I’d say someone has tried to kick the door out from inside, looking at the bend. So I did the right thing and beat it back in with a copper hammer. The latch is borked, so I’ve removed that. Door fits somewhat better, but it is low on the back edge and will need some more careful persuasion. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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