1200bandit Posted May 10, 2023 Author Share Posted May 10, 2023 Manta going for the MOT in the morning ( fist one in many years) Most things done,just headlight adjust which l can’t check probably Just bought a Clio sunroof as the roof on mine is a bit of a cock up Can someone give me the position,measurements of where to cut the roof as you only get one go at this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Pounsett Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 1 hour ago, 1200bandit said: Manta going for the MOT in the morning ( fist one in many years) Most things done,just headlight adjust which l can’t check probably Just bought a Clio sunroof as the roof on mine is a bit of a cock up Can someone give me the position,measurements of where to cut the roof as you only get one go at this Hopefully someone can get you this information sooner but if not I can measure mine up at the weekend. It’s not a Clio roof but it is an aftermarket one made by Skyport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1200bandit Posted May 11, 2023 Author Share Posted May 11, 2023 Cheers Jess ,have not got yet so no rush Going to measure 10 times cut once (hopefully) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1200bandit Posted May 11, 2023 Author Share Posted May 11, 2023 (edited) That’s the manta MOT for a year.clean sheet as well The N/S door mirror is a bit slack on the adjuster and drops down is the any way the make more secure Edited May 11, 2023 by 1200bandit 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
®evo03 Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 There is a plastic spacer or washer, means dismantling the mirror housing. Think this stop the mirror falling. Doubt you are going to find one, material would be similar to plastic tub, recycling bin raid. Example, flat ice cream tub. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessopia74 Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 44 minutes ago, ®evo03 said: There is a plastic spacer or washer, means dismantling the mirror housing. Think this stop the mirror falling. Doubt you are going to find one, material would be similar to plastic tub, recycling bin raid. Example, flat ice cream tub. Nylon washers of various sizes are available. Just search on eBay. Even think spacer types and standoffs easy to buy now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Pounsett Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 23 hours ago, 1200bandit said: Manta going for the MOT in the morning ( fist one in many years) Most things done,just headlight adjust which l can’t check probably Just bought a Clio sunroof as the roof on mine is a bit of a cock up Can someone give me the position,measurements of where to cut the roof as you only get one go at this The overall size of my Skyport glass sunroof is 920mm x 450mm. The hole in the roof is 215mm from the windscreen rubber. I don’t think it should be any further forward as the roof starts to curve more as you get closer to the windscreen. Inside the car there is enough room for the sun visors in front of the roof and about 90mm at the rear (from the sunroof frame to the built in roll bar). It looks right for the size of roof I have but you may need to tweak these dimensions if the Clio roof is any bigger. Left to right the roof is obviously central. I would try and can get measurements from someone who has actually fitted a Clio roof before you start cutting. 😬 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonmonkey Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, 1200bandit said: The N/S door mirror is a bit slack on the adjuster and drops down is the any way the make more secure If the mirror is twisting down in the wind at speed there are 2 small screws you can tighten If you take the mirror off the door, and remove the rubber gasket the 2 small screws are there. Mine didn’t need much tightening to stop the mirror twisting. May work😊 Edited May 11, 2023 by Moonmonkey Spelling 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1200bandit Posted May 17, 2023 Author Share Posted May 17, 2023 So the Manta HAS 12 months MOT . 6 months road tax Got to to do little jobs ,door mirror ect Pulls like a train,and goes like rocket ( or is that is because not been in one for 3/4 years) Dont think l will be posting as much as the is not a lot to do 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Pounsett Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 1 hour ago, 1200bandit said: So the Manta HAS 12 months MOT . 6 months road tax Got to to do little jobs ,door mirror ect Pulls like a train,and goes like rocket ( or is that is because not been in one for 3/4 years) Dont think l will be posting as much as the is not a lot to do Still nice to see some pictures when you are out and about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessopia74 Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 2 hours ago, 1200bandit said: So the Manta HAS 12 months MOT . 6 months road tax Got to to do little jobs ,door mirror ect Pulls like a train,and goes like rocket ( or is that is because not been in one for 3/4 years) Dont think l will be posting as much as the is not a lot to do Great to hear. But they do feel faster than they really are, soooo much fun to drive 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1200bandit Posted May 18, 2023 Author Share Posted May 18, 2023 Fixed the N/s door mirror,remove from the door Striped the adjuster arm clean and pack with grease Removed the lower cover ,removed the screw,made a washer out of a plastic milk bottle top. Maybe the spring bigger by opening it up refit the mirror When for a test run (about 30 miles) only local on the motorway the N/S did not move,got to do the same to the O/S mirror as that moved This manta runs excellent,oil pressure has gone of it head again,will live with it Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Pounsett Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 These are the posts I like best as they are useful to loads of us and plenty of supporting photos show exactly what you’ve done. Great job! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1200bandit Posted May 19, 2023 Author Share Posted May 19, 2023 (edited) When l do the o/s one will post photos of the milk bottle top before and after,best thing is it quick and the cost is £0.00 The sunroof arrived yesterday. So that a job l am not looking forward to as is one shot deal Its a Clio sunroof ( as most are) so if any one can give me the measurements will make the job less difficult. The roof has been cocked up so l have no outline to work from.was thinking that if l remove the paint from the roof l might get a outline on the roof will post a photo tomorrow of the roof Edited May 19, 2023 by 1200bandit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1200bandit Posted May 20, 2023 Author Share Posted May 20, 2023 Okay here’s some photos of the roof Going to fit a Clio sunroof,the roof has been cocked up As you can see (hopefully) the is no line where the sunroof should be ,so no reference point on the roof What is the best way to go about this Was thinking remove the paint and work my way out until l find a reference line,don’t know if is been welded Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Pounsett Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, 1200bandit said: Okay here’s some photos of the roof Going to fit a Clio sunroof,the roof has been cocked up As you can see (hopefully) the is no line where the sunroof should be ,so no reference point on the roof What is the best way to go about this Was thinking remove the paint and work my way out until l find a reference line,don’t know if is been welded Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. Is the Clio roof bigger? Personally I would start with a smaller hole in the middle and work my way out to the edge of the old sunroof and remove it in its entirety. To ensure a good leakproof fit you want a nice clean perimeter. Although the hole may be bigger than the Clio at least it’s in the right place. I sealed around mine with butyl rubber tape. You can’t put too much in - it just squeezes out as you progressively tighten the fixings. Mine continued to squeeze out for several days after I installed it. It never fully sets so can be trimmed off at any time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessopia74 Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 If you’re definitely doing it, then I would get the paint off around r=the seal to see how it’s done. It might be bonded and then filled, or partially welded as you say. But better to know what you are dealing with first and then you can figure the positioning of the Clio sunroof. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1200bandit Posted May 24, 2023 Author Share Posted May 24, 2023 The way this has been done ( by previous owner) quickly and easily route l think it will be bonded in as the roof is not distorted, lt looking like the cocky as blown out on the rear of the sun roof Not looking forward to this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
®evo03 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 (edited) Drilling up from below will find your reference point, one on each side of the corner, 8 holes in total. If you know what I mean. A clean cut from the outside will find any filler depth etc, bare in mind most of these go along back edge, as the cassette inside is the issue. And it will be where the cassette is fixed to the outer skin. While you are at it make sure sponge is removed from this area, as that along with blocked drains where the issue all along. Brave man, needs a brave man's drink before cutting commences. It is a shame someone has and continues to (restore) cars in this way. Either way, your repair will be final. Option no 2, new skin. Just in case, calibra sunroof is bigger than manta. Edited May 24, 2023 by ®evo03 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessopia74 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, ®evo03 said: Brave man, needs a brave man's drink before cutting commences. 😀🍻 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1200bandit Posted May 25, 2023 Author Share Posted May 25, 2023 20 hours ago, ®evo03 said: Drilling up from below will find your reference point, one on each side of the corner, 8 holes in total. If you know what I mean. A clean cut from the outside will find any filler depth etc, bare in mind most of these go along back edge, as the cassette inside is the issue. And it will be where the cassette is fixed to the outer skin. While you are at it make sure sponge is removed from this area, as that along with blocked drains where the issue all along. Brave man, needs a brave man's drink before cutting commences. It is a shame someone has and continues to (restore) cars in this way. Either way, your repair will be final. Option no 2, new skin. Just in case, calibra sunroof is bigger than manta. Will be on the whiskey before and hopefully after.l am going to build myself up to do this.or might leave it for a bit and enjoy driving the manta. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessopia74 Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 11 hours ago, 1200bandit said: Will be on the whiskey before and hopefully after.l am going to build myself up to do this.or might leave it for a bit and enjoy driving the manta. Yeah, just leave it mate. Winter project 👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1200bandit Posted May 26, 2023 Author Share Posted May 26, 2023 (edited) Today get the windows painted so can’t do a lot l know l will do the drives side door mirror.what a pain got the plastic adjuster of ,remove the door mirror , The first photo is the home made tools,works well( don’t do this when it cold as the tads will snap off. clean and lubricant the adjuster mechanism The real reason was to stop the door pointing down on the motorway The small screw very tight coming out ,the big one sized solid did get small movement on the screw,but will not come out So drill the head off the screw,pulled it apart,put the screw that’s left in the mirror body inti the vice,very slight movement backwards and forwards Then it snapped, drilled the snapped bit out had to to 6mm bolt, made the spring a bit longer.the bolt will not go through the spring.drill the spring out 6mm bolt go’s through. Putting back together the thread hole is very slightly out,tried stud slightly bent the stud no good, made the threads longer into the mirror body.got a long bolt and it pulled home,refitted and nice and stiff,the green top is what l used to make the washer All this just for a minor Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. On 19/05/2023 at 19:29, Jonathan Pounsett said: These are the posts I like best as they are useful to loads of us and plenty of supporting photos show exactly what you’ve done. Great job! As requested Edited May 26, 2023 by 1200bandit 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessopia74 Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 Nice job on the repair there, love the nylon washer you made. Don’t suppose you got the dimensions of it did you ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1200bandit Posted May 26, 2023 Author Share Posted May 26, 2023 Snap on 17mm socket for the outer diameter (,23.84mm) 12mm cheep socket for the inner diameter (17mm) the inner diameter is a bit tight but works fine As you can see on photo made the spring bigger 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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