Mickfrad Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 (edited) Probably not the correct place for this but thought it should be in the open section. Vote closed 24th October http://classics.honestjohn.co.uk/news/general-news/2014-10/mot-exemption-for-30-year-old-cars/ Edited October 27, 2014 by Mickfrad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiMarco Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 (edited) I have to say I am against this personally. I believe every car no matter what age should get an MOT. I know that some cars like mine get away with a lot of the rules and regs that now a days cars have. But you cant have a car on the road without a yearly check for two reasons not all people are mechanically minded and wouldn't find the bad areas or don't have the equipment to check. Another one is that the MOT give you an idea when items are nearly gone like pad, tyre etc and finds all these troublesome areas. You could get some rusty pile of crap that is over 30 years old and a death trap that someone is driving around your neighbourhood which I doesn't have an MOT don't believe it is right. The problem will be you will have to wait for some really bad accident to happen due to an unfit car for British roads and then this rule might change. Edited October 23, 2014 by DiMarco 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEIL W Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I have to say I am against this personally. I believe every car no matter what age should get an MOT. I know that some cars like mine get away with a lot of the rules and regs that now a days cars have. But you cant have a car on the road without a yearly check for two reasons not all people are mechanically minded and wouldn't find the bad areas or don't have the equipment to check. Another one is that the MOT give you an idea when items are nearly gone like pad, tyre etc and finds all these troublesome areas. You could get some rusty pile of crap that is over 30 years old and a death trap that someone is driving around your neighbourhood which I doesn't have an MOT don't believe it is right. The problem will be you will have to wait for some really bad accident to happen due to an unfit car for British roads and then this rule might change. Totally agree with DiMarco - an MOT is usually only £30 where I go with all my cars - is a small price to pay for a damm good check over on a ramp. OK I am not that daft to think the garage owner does MOT's cheap for fun - he is hoping for customer who has a fail, for it to fixed it on his premises but if the car doesn't need a MOT & you can fix it - still £30 well spent or if unable to fix it yourself get someone who can at the same garage, who will eventually get a good customer / understanding of your car. Being Scottish I even disagree with Tax free Road Fund Licence - if you can't afford the cost you should seriously consider if you have the means to maintain it. As for emission low zero tax for little cars - pollution low cars doesn't pay for tarmac. Off my soap box now 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick-Manta Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Great idea, there's been a lot of pro motorist, especially pro classic car owner stuff going on recently. The rolling tax exemption coming back and a new MOT exemption would be awesome. An MOT'd car or not, it's the drivers responsibility to ensure it's roadworthy, if it's over 30 years old I'd be confident the owner/driver knows the car inside out and in the exception, an MOT is not a guarentee of roadworthiness at all. Now lets hope there's some bans on these bloody mobile speed traps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I'm all for it, but must also agree that there is a lot of truth in what Di Marco and Neil mention, not that there are many people racing around the roads in thirty year old cars!! So bring it on, my Cavvy has paid enough in tax to help to bring british roads up to what they are today, Motorways for eg, whilst a Grandson of mine runs/races around in a completely tax free Vauxhall, and does far more damage/wear to the roads than I do in me 2,000 miles per year, and although he's using a car with low emmisions, it doesn't mean he isn't pumping out any emmisions, so over 12 months he may be polluting the air more than I do, or could I be wrong thinking that? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dog321fish Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 As far as I am aware a MOT test is a statement of the condition of certain criteria on a vehicle on the day it was tested and nothing more. The MOT test checks that your vehicle meets road safety and environmental standards. It isn’t the same as having your vehicle serviced and doesn’t check its general mechanical condition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 (edited) When I was a tester with Sunblest Bakeries, in house workshop, and we happened to be a testing station, I tested and passed an Escort van, that belonged to a private baker, he drove away happy, ten minutes later one of our own vans came in and the salesman asked me if I had just passed one of DOUGHY'S vans ( that was his nick name) I said yes, he said that he'd just passed him up the road changing the wheels to put on his other van, so I waited cos I knew his other van was due in for testing, about 15mins the other van came in, and he also , as the first van did, have new tyres all round, so I phoned the police and he was nicked!! but the only thing the police had him for was driving a van with bald tyres, not for the MOT tICKET, COS THE VAN WHEN PASSED HAD GOOD TYRES. Edited October 23, 2014 by Julian 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelCityManta Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 In an ideal world MOT exemption would be brilliant but I think we need some kind of MOT testing to make sure our cars are road worthy. Not everyone is one step ahead when it comes to car maintenance and I would be devastated if someone was killed by a car who's brakes had failed because the owner had not spotted the corroded brake pipe. Tax exemption is fantastic and is welcomed with both arms open but no one can get hurt if you don't tax your car, can the same really be said about not having to MOT your vehicle? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dog321fish Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 MOT tester may not have spotted the corroded brake pipe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mantadoc Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Keep the MOT Imagine if your classic that you do 2000 miles a year in has an accident then insurance will be all some sort of prove it was roadworthy kick. Much easier to have your back covered if you have a ticket. I do temper that with above a certain age MOT testers seem to make rookie errors when they are younger than the car being tested because they have no experience to gauge what is normal for a car of that year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1900SR Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 They don't have to be younger than the car being tested to make mistakes, Jayne's last car failed it's MOT on an inoperative steering lock which had recently become testable. The problem was that a 2002 Saab 9-3 doesn't have a steering lock, it has a transmission lock instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapierdave Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 If MOT exemptions for cars over 30 years old is brought in then lets hope the government in power then will make the rolling tax exemption to 30 years as well. I believe the current MOT test is "over the top" for older classic cars, if the MOT is to remain for cars over 30 years old then why not test my 1978 Manta on what the MOT rules were then. Cars built before 1960 have been recently made MOT exempt & there was a large debate about that decision but it's all gone quiet now & been largely forgotten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutty2006 Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Id like to keep MOT's. Or make them 2 yearly. I have so many cars to look after that getting an MOT is a prompter to getting important stuff sorted, otherwise i'd be putting it off for years and years. Im capable of keeping my car in a good enough standard but we are all human, but not all of those out there are mechanics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mantadoc Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Id like to keep MOT's. Or make them 2 yearly. I have so many cars to look after that getting an MOT is a prompter to getting important stuff sorted, otherwise i'd be putting it off for years and years. Im capable of keeping my car in a good enough standard but we are all human, but not all of those out there are mechanics.2 early will be bad for the environment. instead of two manageable bills there will be one big one and cars will go to the scrapper as uneconomical to bite the bullet on one big bill. That will push up the price of second hand cars and result in more being made and of course a cars biggest impact on the environment is the energy used to make it. Also imagine this, ig you bought a car that scraped through an MOT it would be 2 years before you found it was a nail, alternatively, imagine buying one that had not had an MOT in over a year and still had a year to go. OK the MOT only counts for one day but for many that cannot get under a car and do their own checks it is at least something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutty2006 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 2 early will be bad for the environment. instead of two manageable bills there will be one big one and cars will go to the scrapper as uneconomical to bite the bullet on one big bill. That will push up the price of second hand cars and result in more being made and of course a cars biggest impact on the environment is the energy used to make it. Also imagine this, ig you bought a car that scraped through an MOT it would be 2 years before you found it was a nail, alternatively, imagine buying one that had not had an MOT in over a year and still had a year to go. OK the MOT only counts for one day but for many that cannot get under a car and do their own checks it is at least something True. Id also like to see toyota Prius's scrapped under "sutty hates all prius" act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The General Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 I like the point made in the comments on the website about home mechanics not having a brake tester / balancer! most drivers wont be able to tell if one of their rear brakes are defective with a 80 - 20 bias. I think the way forward should be a half price MOT and zero rated road tax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 At the end of the day just cos it may not be compulsory doesn't mean you cant get one done any way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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