1200bandit Posted November 17 Share Posted November 17 Just been looking on marketplace at manta bits ect. manta 400 look a like in black £20,000 looking good. Worth a look ( can’t do links things) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trooker Posted November 17 Share Posted November 17 This one? https://www.facebook.com/share/gVUYcsE2GQXrEG3h/?mibextid=79PoIi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1200bandit Posted November 18 Author Share Posted November 18 Yes that’s the one looks very nice and at £20,000 it’s not bad The is a red one which needs painting at £7,500 l think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mantasrme Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 The black one in doncaster has been for sale for many months now. Its a very poor description for a car at that sort of price and i think it would need a good look around at exactly what has been done to it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessopia74 Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 20 minutes ago, mantasrme said: The black one in doncaster has been for sale for many months now. Its a very poor description for a car at that sort of price and i think it would need a good look around at exactly what has been done to it agree with this, it looked to me like not really wanting to sell it as such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
®evo03 Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 Not much selling at the moment, unfortunately. But prices for projects are still up there. Ok if you are fit for some very hard work. Saves you a few pound if you can do alot of work yourself, but it's a hard ball. Then there are alot who can't and prefer to buy built. Have to say, very nice interesting car, and would be worth a viewing if interested. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cam.in.head Posted November 20 Share Posted November 20 (edited) unrestored all day long for me ! the problem with a " restored" car unless you know the before , progress and methods etc through actual or photographic evidence is that you dont know exactly what is underneath your beautifull shiny paintwork .same as people who send their car off for welding and it comes back all undersealed up ! ( although at least you could remove the underseal to check if you realy wanted but you cant realy do that to a painted body ! many "restored" cars will be done 100% properly but many will be quick tidy ups to make a quick profit with filler over holes and badly welded or fabricated areas . at least if you bought an unrestored original car you would be starting with a known base to work from . even if you cant do the work yourself you could visit and check the progress and advise / ask questions . problem now thou is everything is stupid expensive and cars which we would have bought years back as mot failures for £25 are now asking for thousands . im glad i bought all mine back in thd 80's and 90's when they were a few hundred cos theres no way in a million years i would pay the thousands people ask nowadays . yes its supply and demand and what people are willing to pay but mantas over £5000 etc is just stupid ( dont have a go here ! lol) makes me wonder if i should tone down my collection and sell my 74 low mileage viva or my carlton 2.2 ! Edited November 20 by cam.in.head 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
®evo03 Posted November 20 Share Posted November 20 (edited) Has the viva or Carlton got a MOT 🤔 £25 🤣 I'd pay that 🤣 Just find actions strange, like a Manta project through auction a few years back at £17, 18k. Or more recently a Escort Cosworth. Crazy money. £200k Weigh that up, I'd pay £20k for a manta As for an ex works 400, believe same car below. What are works 400s about £120k Rally cars have a hard life. Edited November 20 by ®evo03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
®evo03 Posted November 20 Share Posted November 20 In general, car prices are all over the place, with projects, barn finds asking maybe a bit too much, compare the Manta equivalent, Capri, Escort MK2, Toyota Twincam, E30 BMW, Porsche 944, anything from £5k up to £40k. Problem is they are not making old ones anymore 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cam.in.head Posted November 20 Share Posted November 20 this is true but in the case of the rally manta at £120 thou . that will be like old wine or a painting . people wont be buying to use or enjoy but purely as an investment . and a car is a large thing to store as purely an investment . you wouldnt actually buy a £120 k rally car to use as a car would you ? but as i said im just glad i bought mine when i did before prices went silly . same argument nowadays i suppose with houses !. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonmonkey Posted November 20 Share Posted November 20 8 hours ago, ®evo03 said: Has the viva or Carlton got a MOT 🤔 £25 🤣 I'd pay that 🤣 Just find actions strange, like a Manta project through auction a few years back at £17, 18k. Or more recently a Escort Cosworth. Crazy money. £200k Weigh that up, I'd pay £20k for a manta As for an ex works 400, believe same car below. What are works 400s about £120k The ex Jimmy McRae ‘84 British Championship car was up for £250k but didn’t sell at auction. There’s currently an ex Reinhard Heinbach restored car currently for sale at €259k. You can get non restored, not ex works built ones for less, there is one for sale at €159k 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
®evo03 Posted November 20 Share Posted November 20 Think I'd stick with the market place Mantas..... But nice to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutty2006 Posted November 21 Share Posted November 21 It’s the run up to Xmas and winter fuel money is being saved, no one will buy anything now unless they have the cash saved already. @cam.in.head no point selling your Carlton, the values are still in the floor. I’m holding onto mine for as long as possible 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cam.in.head Posted November 21 Share Posted November 21 i wasnt realy intending to ! bought it when it was fairly new in 1994 for £1300. carnelian red . drove it as my almost daily driver until i bought my omega in 2015. not been on road since but all ready to go maybee next summer ( or wait another year for free tax !) same issue with the viva realy . not realy intend selling it (yet) bought it in 90 with around 40 odd k. now only about 10k extra but excellent condition and mostly orig paint ( still orig inner wings and sills) problem is with having 5 they dont all get used much and when i go they will all just go straight to the scrapyard no doubt which is a shame with all my parts collections too . dont think mh brother will be interested in trying to sell them on he ( like most prople) think old cars and stuff are worthless . he has numerous spares for a landrover fc 101 forward control that he once owned but never puts them on ebay cos he doesnt think anyone would want them despitd their rarity ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
®evo03 Posted November 21 Share Posted November 21 Interesting point, the Birmingham Motorcycle Museum, most bikes where donated to them, by families. Deceased relatives etc, some have a nice wee story on a plaque, and it is a privilege to see them, some works of art, the engineering is unreal. But sad all the same, as they don't get used. After all they are a machine, a mechanical device. But majority of people have no interest, as they are not the easiest machine to operate. Sad all the same to see them unused, enjoyed, being part of someone's life, Always remember seeing the Norton V8 concept bike now getting revamped by Henry Cole and team. Also the Norton Rotary racers from the early 90, amazing machines with no engine braking 🤔🥵 But all beautiful bikes all the same. The joy it must bring to others seeing something that someone they knew once owned, the memories and happiness evoked, makes it all worth it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessopia74 Posted November 21 Share Posted November 21 7 hours ago, cam.in.head said: i wasnt realy intending to ! bought it when it was fairly new in 1994 for £1300. carnelian red . drove it as my almost daily driver until i bought my omega in 2015. not been on road since but all ready to go maybee next summer ( or wait another year for free tax !) same issue with the viva realy . not realy intend selling it (yet) bought it in 90 with around 40 odd k. now only about 10k extra but excellent condition and mostly orig paint ( still orig inner wings and sills) problem is with having 5 they dont all get used much and when i go they will all just go straight to the scrapyard no doubt which is a shame with all my parts collections too . dont think mh brother will be interested in trying to sell them on he ( like most prople) think old cars and stuff are worthless . he has numerous spares for a landrover fc 101 forward control that he once owned but never puts them on ebay cos he doesnt think anyone would want them despitd their rarity ! Think there are a load off ppl like this mate, then when they pass family me,bets end up skipping stuff as they have zero idea of what they are for. Its one of the main reasons my Son was so involved in everything I do, so that he has a rough idea of how much money I have wasted 🤣 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cam.in.head Posted November 22 Share Posted November 22 yeah i know .! some people say to me .hows the old bangers and when are you going to buy a new car and how can you drive round in those with no aircon,sat nav, screens etc! yet if they ever get a lift they seem suprised and reluctantly comment that they are actually comfy ,quiet and seem to "have some power " and most annoying is when they say "are you not worried about breaking down all the time ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostSoul Posted November 22 Share Posted November 22 "are you not worried about breaking down all the time?" Yes. When I'm in any modern car with a billion sensors, all interconnected and all determined to put the car in Limp Mode! 😂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutty2006 Posted November 22 Share Posted November 22 On 21/11/2024 at 10:27, cam.in.head said: i wasnt realy intending to ! bought it when it was fairly new in 1994 for £1300. carnelian red . drove it as my almost daily driver until i bought my omega in 2015. not been on road since but all ready to go maybee next summer ( or wait another year for free tax !) same issue with the viva realy . not realy intend selling it (yet) bought it in 90 with around 40 odd k. now only about 10k extra but excellent condition and mostly orig paint ( still orig inner wings and sills) problem is with having 5 they dont all get used much and when i go they will all just go straight to the scrapyard no doubt which is a shame with all my parts collections too . dont think mh brother will be interested in trying to sell them on he ( like most prople) think old cars and stuff are worthless . he has numerous spares for a landrover fc 101 forward control that he once owned but never puts them on ebay cos he doesnt think anyone would want them despitd their rarity ! Don’t worry, put all your Carlton parts in my name in your will and I’ll make sure they get put to good use 😉🤣🤣 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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