hoobby Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 (edited) Just got the manta out of storage to find this got it from edelsiede 2 years ago just bad quality ? Edited April 2, 2023 by hoobby Pic 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessopia74 Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 Well that is shocking, but very common (with copy parts) Obviously Changed the plastic/ rubber material choice and probably less stable plasticisers. Hate it when things are remade and inferior 🤬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
®evo03 Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 There is alot of stuff recently made of rubber failing, what's going on? Wonder where it is made? I'm guessing good.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessopia74 Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 18 minutes ago, ®evo03 said: There is alot of stuff recently made of rubber failing, what's going on? Wonder where it is made? I'm guessing good.............. I was wondering if it’s made from recycled rubber 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoobby Posted April 3, 2023 Author Share Posted April 3, 2023 MM Opel parts have them in stock 20 Euros more than edelschiede but probably from the same source have emailed both parties to find out who made them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutty2006 Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 100% poor rubber quality. Anything made within the last 3-4 years is starting to fail. As mentioned in a different thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoobby Posted April 4, 2023 Author Share Posted April 4, 2023 Got replys from both parties MM Opel parts "we do not know" Edelschiede "We have this hose bend made ourselves, it is of course of the usual high edelschmiede quality." have emailed them back with a pic of hose will let you know the response. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-400 Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 (edited) this is a pic of MM Opel parts: https://www.mm-opelparts.nl/slang-lucht-2-0e when you enlarge one of the pics you can see the symbol of Edelschmiede. The last years rubber parts are made of a bad quality cause the use of lead is forbidden. Also in rubber bushings of suspensions etc. Edited April 4, 2023 by H-400 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
®evo03 Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 Would be interesting if warranty is available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoobby Posted April 6, 2023 Author Share Posted April 6, 2023 On 04/04/2023 at 17:40, ®evo03 said: Would be interesting if warranty is available. Got a reply from edelschiede normally, this hose is in really high quality, we produce everytime in best quality. But sometimes the rubber compound is not perfect, so it will be in bad condition after some years. I will send you a new one for free. I think, you don’t mind, am I right?!? 😉 Bye bye form sunny but cold Germany Well what can I say top marks edelschiede 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cam.in.head Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 that sounds ok . for now anyway. gives you chance to find an original one ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trooker Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 4 hours ago, hoobby said: Got a reply from edelschiede normally, this hose is in really high quality, we produce everytime in best quality. But sometimes the rubber compound is not perfect, so it will be in bad condition after some years. I will send you a new one for free. I think, you don’t mind, am I right?!? 😉 Bye bye form sunny but cold Germany Well what can I say top marks edelschiede 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 Top marks indeed! Will he send a teabag along with it too 🤔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick-Manta Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 (edited) Probably envirotard government policy forcing the suppliers of the rubber to use a percentage of recycled crap, and forbid them to use certain chemicals to make the rubber temperature resistant. Knee-jerk bans and restrictions seem par for the course these days, but nice to hear Edelschmeider is going to replace it. Edited April 6, 2023 by Rick-Manta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessopia74 Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Rick-Manta said: Probably envirotard government policy forcing the suppliers of the rubber to use a percentage of recycled crap, and forbid them to use certain chemicals to make the rubber temperature resistant. Knee-jerk bans and restrictions seem par for the course these days, but nice to hear Edelschmeider is going to replace it. Sadly the world does need to be protected and it has to start somewhere. The irony is most of the legislation is focused on the converted anyway (uk &EU) when we have certain large population countries that clearly do not give a flying feck about waste/pollution/planet that between them accounts for 2/3 of the world population’s 🤔💁🤬 8 hours ago, hoobby said: Got a reply from edelschiede normally, this hose is in really high quality, we produce everytime in best quality. But sometimes the rubber compound is not perfect, so it will be in bad condition after some years. I will send you a new one for free. I think, you don’t mind, am I right?!? 😉 Bye bye form sunny but cold Germany Well what can I say top marks edelschiede 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 Great result and refreshing to see customer service is still alive somewhere 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick-Manta Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 (edited) 19 hours ago, Jessopia74 said: Sadly the world does need to be protected and it has to start somewhere. The irony is most of the legislation is focused on the converted anyway (uk &EU) when we have certain large population countries that clearly do not give a flying feck about waste/pollution/planet that between them accounts for 2/3 of the world population’s 🤔💁🤬 I disagree with the first bit but even if I didn't, a handful of stuck-up, bureaucratic politicians are the people least fit to dictate what needs saving and from whom; which is why there's this disparity of worldwide pollution regulation you mention. Edited April 7, 2023 by Rick-Manta 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoobby Posted April 28, 2023 Author Share Posted April 28, 2023 On 06/04/2023 at 20:42, Trooker said: Will he send a teabag along with it too 🤔 New hose,clips and yes a tea bag cherry and banana really not sure of the flavour but hose looks and feels very different from the other one when I got it. Going clean the old one and refit and put some tiger seal in cracks as neatly as possible may get a few more years out of it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cam.in.head Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 mine have all got original 80's ones and theyre all still ok . rubber was definately better back then ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutty2006 Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 1 hour ago, hoobby said: New hose,clips and yes a tea bag cherry and banana really not sure of the flavour but hose looks and feels very different from the other one when I got it. Going clean the old one and refit and put some tiger seal in cracks as neatly as possible may get a few more years out of it. I quite like their fruit tea! I wish they’d send me a months supply! Haha 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoobby Posted July 29 Author Share Posted July 29 hmmm so much for the replacement only fitted this in march and done 1 mile 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutty2006 Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 Poor quality rubber. I wonder if condoms have the same fail rate 🤔🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessopia74 Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 2 hours ago, Sutty2006 said: Poor quality rubber. I wonder if condoms have the same fail rate 🤔🤣 Tenuous link there! Recycled rubber, not virgin 🤣 But that is the issue, it’s crap material. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutty2006 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Personally I’d be emailing eidelschmede with that photo and informing them of the issue. They need to be aware of it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
®evo03 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Something has changed with rubber manufacturing, too many things are going wrong recently, Is it the same for timing belts and tyres 😰 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutty2006 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 3 hours ago, ®evo03 said: Something has changed with rubber manufacturing, too many things are going wrong recently, Is it the same for timing belts and tyres 😰 Seen it a lot on trucks. Merc bushes (for example A frame and torsion bar bushes) never failed up until 2020 models, now they’re being replaced left right and centre because the rubber is failing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoobby Posted July 30 Author Share Posted July 30 10 hours ago, Sutty2006 said: Personally I’d be emailing eidelschmede with that photo and informing them of the issue. They need to be aware of it! They are aware and it would seem not available anymore could have sold out or because of the expense of returns and replacements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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