Guest Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 Take your word for it Clive mate. post Roanoke OMOC 5885 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Monkey Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 should i be hunting down a chassis rail and jacking point then? or would a reshell be easier? or better in the long run? B934RJA... soon to be pimped... and evil bay is bad for your health... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opel2000 Posted June 10, 2006 Share Posted June 10, 2006 Moon Monkey this was a flat piece of steel sheet once. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... %3AIT&rd=1 You can do anything with steel, it is simple simple stuff to work with. You don't need a new shell as whatever shell you get will only need work on as well, stick with what you have got we will get it soretd with you. http://www.customsolutions.me.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Monkey Posted June 10, 2006 Share Posted June 10, 2006 I've jus tthought... how much would it cost to make a new petrol tank??? obviously not in stainless... altho for the bling merchant who has everything!!! Also was wondering... has anyone seen that rubber stuff you can get from frost? the stuff you put on tool handles? if i covered the fixed/new petrol tank with it would that stop it from rotting so quickly? just I paid £175 for the last one including straps and it's only lasted just over a year so I'm refusing to pay big money for one... B934RJA... soon to be pimped... and evil bay is bad for your health... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANTAMAN Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 Steve,chassie rail and jacking point gone,yep that would be normal for a Manta and just what i would be expecting to find,corner of the footwell has probably gone as well,done all this several times before,one Manta the rot went so far that the hole i cut was big enough for a small child to crawl through! Get it into the workshop,strip it back,cut out the rot,get the sheet metal cut to shape,then with the MIG welder in your hand shout out load 'HAVE A TASTE OF THIS!!!' The idea of decending on a poor old Manta en mass and bringing it back from the brink is really inspiring me,if we didn't do yours now Steve i think we would all have to find another one just to enjoy a group grinding and welding session,or to put it another way Steve,i think your Manta is going to be repaired weather you like it or not! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Monkey Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 is there any way you could put something else in to replace the jacking point? i.e. just a bit of sturdy box section or the like? I refuse to use the manta jack as the only time i've ever tried to use it it bent the sill... was winding for ages too thinking how com the car isn't going up...[:I][:I][:I] again... this isn't for the session (I just want MOT fails to be sorted ASAP... need to find some cheap suspension...) but would it be possible to make a hatch tank using the filler neck and covering it with this stuff... http://www.frost.co.uk/item_Detail.asp? ... ng%20(368g) or http://www.frost.co.uk/item_Detail.asp? ... k%20(429ml) or possibly both??? p.s. any one with a spare fuel tank for a hatch? (how would i plug injection hole stuff to be unplugged when i need them?) B934RJA... soon to be pimped... and evil bay is bad for your health... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickappy Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 i got a full set of shockers, just put some billys on mine so there spare, all in good nick too[] sunroof seal wanted please help!!!! omoc member 5918 16v i240 hatch (coming soon) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opel2000 Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 quote:is there any way you could put something else in to replace the jacking point? i.e. just a bit of sturdy box section or the likeid="quote">id="quote"> YES http://www.customsolutions.me.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Monkey Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 thank you clive!!! jacking points are evil!! B934RJA... soon to be pimped... and evil bay is bad for your health... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannywilks Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 quote:is there any way you could put something else in to replace the jacking point? i.e. just a bit of sturdy box section or the likeid="quote">id="quote"> My car passed an mot with this as a replacement jacking point: (Pic doesn't work. Use this link: http://community.webshots.com/photo/312 ... 2022xeCEYL) Its a piece of sturdy box section and an escort door! 78 SRB OMOC 5799 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Fish Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 totally useless anyway, if you actually use the manta jack in the jacking point, it serves only to force the jacking point away from the floor/chassis, if its rotton, just cut it out and plate the area as above! http://www.cymrumanta.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Monkey Posted July 9, 2006 Share Posted July 9, 2006 as i will be aquiring a new shell just wondering if anyone still wants to help out in doing a full swap of all the bits or if i should see if one of the chaps in my area would be able to store it while we get it sorted and ready to go? OMOC NE Area Rep... omocne@hotmail.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mantasrme Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Moonmonkey thought you'd like to see what my shell is like I've got a page of pictures up on my website here http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mantasport/ma...ages/d76knb.htm click on a thumbnail for a bigger picture. These were taken when i first aquired it but it looks about the same apart from the wheels (which are not included but it will be rolling) There's no engine or box and no interior apart from dashboard and roof lining. Other than that its complete. Full wiring loom still in place and all the brake pipes, brakes, springs, dampers etc Just been out for an inspection and as i said it does require a bit of welding attention. Both rear outer sills are gone but looks as though these could be done bellow the line of a pair of sideskirts so no paintwork would be needed. The drivers jacking point is gone from above (ns feels solid) Drivers a-pillar/bulkhead seam gone Passangers a-pillar/bulkhead seam going (probably gone but didn't poke too hard) Rear 1/4 panel lowers need work (might just get away with a smallish patch) Os inner wing could do with a short bit of repair (5" or so) But both front wings have small rust holes in top so would need to come off anyway Little hole infront of washer tray through inner wing None of which is too much work really, although more normally becomes apparent when the angle grinder comes out. But the good bits are . . . . . Chassis rails are solid and unwelded [] both doors very good 1'4 panels undented nose cone solid and no rust boot floor solid It is a sunroof model and there is a small patch of rusty specs (about 1" by around 8" running behind roof above drivers head) but some treatment from the inside should prevent it getting too far. My feeling is that after looking around your car with Joe, Paul, Mick and others over the weekend, that while your present car could be rescued (afterall anything can be fixed) It would take more than a weekend to do it as some of the previous repairs are more than likely hiding lots of rust. Especially the cracks above the tailgate hinges are not a good thing. Plus if we do it we all agree it needed doing right or not doing, we can't do half a job (certainly clive's car shows its not within his ability to do a job OK rather than spot on []). So my thoughts were that my shell above would be a better starting point for you. The advantage being, if people are willing to put in some work for you, that the shell could be welded up in advance. Then a weekend spent swapping everything over from your present car to the new one would see you back on the road (although you would need an MOT) Swapping your interior/ engine/ gearbox/ exhaust/ radiator etc Oh and a pair of front wings would be needed, but aren't your's solid? As i've said its sat on what was my front garden (now its patio slabs) and can stay there until we can sort somewhere to take it. It stands me at £50 which is what i'll take for it and i even have a trailer and car that'll pull it so i can deliver it for something towards the petrol. If anyone wants to come and asses the car first they are welcome (i'm in Harrogate North Yorkshire) This offer is to help sort out MoonMonkey only, otherwise i will fix the shell and turn it into something all together not standard. But as i have more than enough projects allready 1 less wouldn't hurt me [] http://www.mantasport.co.uk OMOC no:3325 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulmanta Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 I Am still in to help out, There didnt seem to be a time that was good for everyone to get together and sort out when we can do the work so it might be best to sort it on here, i can do pretty much any weekend so long as i am given a bit of notice, i can also bring lots of tools so that will help, i would rather not travel much more than the Midlands as getting to and from Billing took me 8 hours each way to and from Cornwall, The Idea of doin the white shell is genius, it is much quicker to weld it up and steve can still use his car while it is done, it should only take a weekend to swop the engine etc across once all the prep is done. Only thing that remains to find out is who ? where ? and when ? this is a two stage mission now, weld and prep shell, then swop bits ! ----All you touch and all you see is all your life will ever be--- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 I reckon this is a much more viable project, get the shell welded and the bodywork sorted first then get all the mech stuff swopped, be back on the road in a weekend...[8D] Mick OMOC 5924 1980 Black Berlinetta Coupe, 2.0 SRI Project 1984 Silver GT/E Coupe, Road Rally Car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Monkey Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 would it be cheeky asking about fitting a bodykit too??[][] only joking... it sound's like it's going to be a right b!tch to sort it out... I should be available most weekends given a bit of notice... I'm more than happy with reshelling it and would probably be better on the moving things over side of things... but if hands are needed then they are available.... the MOT is due in september and was possibly looking to just reshell it... i.e. use the same plates and stoof... while i remember what reg is it?? Anyone who helps weld it will be more than welcome to come to the swapping over part and have pizza and beer too... umm... not sure what else i can say... other than give me some time to swap some things around and I'll send you some cash!! Cheers peeps!! OMOC NE Area Rep... omocne@hotmail.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Monkey Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 while i remember.... i just wanted to ask... what is the suspesion like in it... my heap has developed a rather worrying clunking sound... and it wasn't like the rattly wishbones that i already had... not really had much time to have a goos look cause I've also discovered I may not have a job soon... b@stards... but i might get the body kit sorted!! OMOC NE Area Rep... omocne@hotmail.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANTAMAN Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 Is there any progress on a date/dates to this Blitz on the Manta/Mantas? given some notice i can do a whole weekend or even two weekends as it appears the project has developed into one weekend preping the white shell another weekend swoping the runnuing gear. Perhaps we need a leader who can say this is when things will be done,that person i presume would have to be the one who owns the location where the Mantas will be worked on.so the questions that need addressing are - 1. What is the exact plan? one weekend on the shell another on the swop? or all taking place on one weekend? 2. Where will the work be taking place? 3. When will the work be taking place? I'm really up for this and provided the railway release me from my shackles i'll be there,i might even have my Bedford Recovery Truck back on the road by then so moving Mantas in any state will no longer be an issue,we have only till september when the MOT runs out on Steves Manta (what happens to Steves shell because thats more than saveable?) TIME TO MAKE SOME DECISIONSid="size4">id="red"> South Midz Manta Bitz Selling all sorts of parts for your Manta,we dont know exactly what we have got,but there's so much we probably have what you want!surplus parts bought,whole cars considerd. M/B 07947 640505 A MANTAMAN Enterprize OMOC Member number 2658F Ian Virco,area rep,Beds and North Bucks,and now with added Hertfordshire! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Moon Monkey Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 I was thinking it wasn't going to happen!! I've made some back up arrangements... I can get someone to store it up here for me and one of the lads in my area was gonna do some of the welding... I was going to have a go too!! EEk[:0][:0][:0] The car doesn't need to be perfect... just good enough to pass an MOT... which to be honest sounds like once the sills are done it will be!! Will be more fun with more people but like I say if people can't decide or don't want to I understand and can get it sorted one way or the other... I may be able to bring a couple of members with me but that would need discussing at the next meet... was hoping to get a decision sorted by the end of the month so I know whether it's going to coventry or coming up here and can get some proper plans set in motion... Anyone know where i canget some good sills from? bad one's will do cause they'll be getting hidden away in the not too distant future... Tho i may be cheeky and as for some help in fitting the door molds as i don't want to fook it up!! mantasrme... tried emailling you a couple of time but haven't had a response!! any chance I could have a working e-mail address? OMOC NE Area Rep... omocne@hotmail.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Monkey Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 whilst i remember... will this stuff be anygood for the engine bay? http://www.frost.co.uk/item_Detail.asp? ... r%20(429ml) it will definatley go under the washer bottle no questions but do you think it'll help with keeping the rot at bay in the rest of the bay?? says it's good for wheel arches.... OMOC NE Area Rep... omocne@hotmail.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 I'll do my best to be available to help if I can, but I can't offer my garage I'm afraid as it's simply too full of stuff at present for it to be viable for a lot of people to work in it (a mixture of two Mantas, plumbing parts and an awful lot of engines in bits). Fear not Steve, I'm sure we'll get you sorted. Cheers, Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opel2000 Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 How does a week on Saturday sound? We will reshell the car on my drive. Need to get the keys from a neighbour or simply just catch the bloke sometime so I can get my V8 store out of the way in his garage. Can't simply go on waiting or expecting anyone else to come good on this to help us out so lets just do the ****er. Please don't take this the wrong way Steve as it has no bearing on you whatsoever, Just not best pleased that I'm going to be ending up with a shell on my drive that won't be gone until the Monday/Tuesday Had too many years of the front garden looking like a breakers yard. http://www.customsolutions.me.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opel2000 Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 Whoah hold on Have I missed something here, what's with "the prepping of the shell" that I only just noticed in Mantamans post. What the hell is the idea of getting a shell that needs work. When someone already has a carthat may need only a weekends work. Guess I better read through the topic guess there is something I missed. http://www.customsolutions.me.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opel2000 Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 Just been reading Mantasrme post about the white shell. See no reason why the hell it can not be done in a weekend, now I will set the weekend aside for this so if the shell can be delivered to my place we will all get stuck in but I won't have time to attack the car before the said weekend. Sills I can get them done in a couple of hours no problem. Interior can be done in a couple of hours whole car doesn't seem to much of a task really if there are a few good people getting stuck into this with no idiots harping on about crap. Moon monkey, if you could pick up a set of side skirts it would benefit the whole end result, as per David Howells post (mantasrme) I better get looking for a new welder then. So who else can make a week on Saturday? http://www.customsolutions.me.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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