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this car was recently purchased i wasnt looking for one to be honest it appeared on facebook market place 22 minutes  before i saw it i messaged the seller [from carmarthen] got a deposit sorted  and had it collected and delivered 4 days later
the guy is into rallying big into mk2 escorts and has a class winning peugot 205 gti  as well as numerous other cars and projects  he got this from a chap he knew  with the intention of converting to a rally car but with other projects and work didnt get to it [i know that feeling]   

so as can clearly be seen the whole nose cone is scrap and has since been removed   the rear arches are ropey along the first inch from the bottom there was quite a bit of body filler in these the top of

the rear quarter/ botoom of c pillar has a nasty hole

the outer a pillar/ top of door post has a hole 

the floors will need replacing as theyre crusty but intact    

the boot floor is very good  as is  the rear panel/ inner wings and from what i can see at the moment so are the chassis rails the doors are scrap with the lower outer skin and the lower frame being shot 

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ive been offered this bodykit with everything in the pics   [whats it worth] ??  also ive never seen a 400 kit that the friont wings fit onto the original steel wing whats peoplles thoughts   is it any good or better of avoiding

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folded up some new cr4 steel inner sills/floor  did them a bit heavier gauge than standard this is maximum length of my folder at 6 ft  Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click t

got  a bit more progress today  slow going drilling out spotwelds and trying to remove panels without damage apart from the inner A  post that i hammer and bolstered out after drilling spot welds   th

busy couple of days ahead stripping the mechanicals and suspension out  had a price to get it blasted inside outside and underneath and the guy will come tome wich saves me so much hassle so thats the

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Hi Stumpy, a lot of work to do! I wish you succes, will follow this topic also. About the front wings: Seen them also sometimes. The benefit of those is that the fitting of the wing is better, with the completely big polyester  wings you have to fix and adjust some minor defaults but to look original you have to use filler to hide the seem. This is a pic of a M400 replica with those smaler wings:

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So you see it is possible to make it look as the real thing.  Another pic of a M400 (original rallycar)with the nose naked:

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The strange looking metal plates are air intakes. 

Grts, Herman

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31 minutes ago, H-400 said:

Hi Stumpy, a lot of work to do! I wish you succes, will follow this topic also. About the front wings: Seen them also sometimes. The benefit of those is that the fitting of the wing is better, with the completely big polyester  wings you have to fix and adjust some minor defaults but to look original you have to use filler to hide the seem. This is a pic of a M400 replica with those smaler wings:

 

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So you see it is possible to make it look as the real thing.  Another pic of a M400 (original rallycar)with the nose naked:

 

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The strange looking metal plates are air intakes. 

Grts, Herman

amazing looking ar  Herman thanks for the informaton and the pics the front end shows perfectly what i need to keep and what can be removed 

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You are a member! Welcome to this grale of info. Just look around on those other topics. 

Another pic of a "400" without those air intakes so with the original metal around the radiator:

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@Jess: When I look at that picture of the Bastos-Manta it looks as a normal road 400 kit, can't see the feul cap, those arches at the rear  look road. 

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yes well worth the membership fee for the information and expertise of other members you have some fantastic looking cars

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so the manta is sat on my hardstanding in the corner of my garden in the open  so today i have bought some timber to make a  car port  lean too i   will get that sorted in a couple of hours  i earn a crust doing that type of thing   it will be 18ft x 12    will try and get some storage overhead  to keep body panels glass ect    i cant go any higher than 8 foot tall  though so once thats built i can crack on with the strip down     ive also seen on here someone getting their car put in red oxide primer at a bodyshops recomendation   now i know proper red lead  is not for sale to the general public so it mustbe a modern alternative that takes out the the things that made it so good ime assuming

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i think a bit of a restomod so get her solid and rust free  then a manta 400kit  and ime deliberating between a redtop engine with twin 45 webbers both of wich i have here i also have a tuned rover v8  and a mate has a b204 saab engine so i have a few options regards the power plant  theres not much of an interior in here at the moment so also undecided on that side of things

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3 hours ago, stumpy said:

i think a bit of a restomod so get her solid and rust free  then a manta 400kit  and ime deliberating between a redtop engine with twin 45 webbers both of wich i have here i also have a tuned rover v8  and a mate has a b204 saab engine so i have a few options regards the power plant  theres not much of an interior in here at the moment so also undecided on that side of things

SAAB is all sorts of headaches, but look at my 400 project as that’s having a B234 in it. The main immediate problem is sump, oil drainage from head and oil starvation. profile subframe and move the steering rack, and I still have these overarching concerns to address.
Having gone through all the options of how to keep it all in check, I am left with dry sump as the best option., that will leave me with water pump issues 🤦🏻‍♂️🙈

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maybe  you will have sorted all those by the time i get the body sorted i can learn from your headaches lol  as i say just looking at options at the moment have no definite plans

 

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thats lush i actually now of a low mileage lexus 1uz moror with oom auto box prop ect even has a bmw 535 manual box to convert to

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I have rover v8 in my rally car, c20xe on twin webber's in my mancona, tuned 2.4 in my i240r and a BMW M50B25 in my commodore. I'd choose the bmw lump over the lot for reliability, drivability and power. The commodore is one of the most fun things I've ever driven with the BMW engine and box in.

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i saw a guy put an m3 bmw motor in a manta i think its on youtube he also made mant 400 [type] arches using the steel wings and quarters   very neat   way of doing things an all steel  ime getting fromthis fit whatever you want/have  lol

 

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lol ime welsh Herman  we are used to the  weather....... it will be getting closed  off on the sides nott in pics but  ive made a lean too/car port so has a roof over it  i will be  putting sides on it just waiting on materials at the moment as with covid their hard to get hold of
with the the A post ime wondering wether a complete new section is needed or wether i could cut down the fold lines as in pic and make this section from sheet steel  probably in two peices to make sure of an accurate fit  rearwards of the blue line is rot free doesnt seem much sense removing more than needed

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so a question for you guys is there an inner A post panel available or does anyone have a pic of one on the car  without the outer skin fitted

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Pretty sure the inner A post isn’t available unless someone’s cutting up a car.

Check out Andy Abbotts build thread for lots of relevant and useful pictures.

 

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