stumpy Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 this car was recently purchased i wasnt looking for one to be honest it appeared on facebook market place 22 minutes before i saw it i messaged the seller [from carmarthen] got a deposit sorted and had it collected and delivered 4 days later the guy is into rallying big into mk2 escorts and has a class winning peugot 205 gti as well as numerous other cars and projects he got this from a chap he knew with the intention of converting to a rally car but with other projects and work didnt get to it [i know that feeling] so as can clearly be seen the whole nose cone is scrap and has since been removed the rear arches are ropey along the first inch from the bottom there was quite a bit of body filler in these the top of the rear quarter/ botoom of c pillar has a nasty hole the outer a pillar/ top of door post has a hole the floors will need replacing as theyre crusty but intact the boot floor is very good as is the rear panel/ inner wings and from what i can see at the moment so are the chassis rails the doors are scrap with the lower outer skin and the lower frame being shot Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. ive been offered this bodykit with everything in the pics [whats it worth] ?? also ive never seen a 400 kit that the friont wings fit onto the original steel wing whats peoplles thoughts is it any good or better of avoidingProject images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-400 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Hi Stumpy, a lot of work to do! I wish you succes, will follow this topic also. About the front wings: Seen them also sometimes. The benefit of those is that the fitting of the wing is better, with the completely big polyester wings you have to fix and adjust some minor defaults but to look original you have to use filler to hide the seem. This is a pic of a M400 replica with those smaler wings: Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. So you see it is possible to make it look as the real thing. Another pic of a M400 (original rallycar)with the nose naked: Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. The strange looking metal plates are air intakes. Grts, Herman 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessopia74 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Are these a bit narrower than the Irmscher road kit Herman? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumpy Posted June 2, 2020 Author Share Posted June 2, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, H-400 said: Hi Stumpy, a lot of work to do! I wish you succes, will follow this topic also. About the front wings: Seen them also sometimes. The benefit of those is that the fitting of the wing is better, with the completely big polyester wings you have to fix and adjust some minor defaults but to look original you have to use filler to hide the seem. This is a pic of a M400 replica with those smaler wings: Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. So you see it is possible to make it look as the real thing. Another pic of a M400 (original rallycar)with the nose naked: Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. The strange looking metal plates are air intakes. Grts, Herman amazing looking ar Herman thanks for the informaton and the pics the front end shows perfectly what i need to keep and what can be removed Edited June 2, 2020 by stumpy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-400 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 You are a member! Welcome to this grale of info. Just look around on those other topics. Another pic of a "400" without those air intakes so with the original metal around the radiator: Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. @Jess: When I look at that picture of the Bastos-Manta it looks as a normal road 400 kit, can't see the feul cap, those arches at the rear look road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumpy Posted June 2, 2020 Author Share Posted June 2, 2020 yes well worth the membership fee for the information and expertise of other members you have some fantastic looking cars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanMc Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Hi Stumpy, Good luck with the project - enjoy! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumpy Posted June 2, 2020 Author Share Posted June 2, 2020 than you mate loving it so far bit green but i will learn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumpy Posted June 4, 2020 Author Share Posted June 4, 2020 (edited) so the manta is sat on my hardstanding in the corner of my garden in the open so today i have bought some timber to make a car port lean too i will get that sorted in a couple of hours i earn a crust doing that type of thing it will be 18ft x 12 will try and get some storage overhead to keep body panels glass ect i cant go any higher than 8 foot tall though so once thats built i can crack on with the strip down ive also seen on here someone getting their car put in red oxide primer at a bodyshops recomendation now i know proper red lead is not for sale to the general public so it mustbe a modern alternative that takes out the the things that made it so good ime assuming Edited June 4, 2020 by stumpy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumpy Posted June 4, 2020 Author Share Posted June 4, 2020 its new home now just build her a nice dry shelter Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ems Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Nice to see another Manta getting saved. What are your plans for the car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumpy Posted June 4, 2020 Author Share Posted June 4, 2020 i think a bit of a restomod so get her solid and rust free then a manta 400kit and ime deliberating between a redtop engine with twin 45 webbers both of wich i have here i also have a tuned rover v8 and a mate has a b204 saab engine so i have a few options regards the power plant theres not much of an interior in here at the moment so also undecided on that side of things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessopia74 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 3 hours ago, stumpy said: i think a bit of a restomod so get her solid and rust free then a manta 400kit and ime deliberating between a redtop engine with twin 45 webbers both of wich i have here i also have a tuned rover v8 and a mate has a b204 saab engine so i have a few options regards the power plant theres not much of an interior in here at the moment so also undecided on that side of things SAAB is all sorts of headaches, but look at my 400 project as that’s having a B234 in it. The main immediate problem is sump, oil drainage from head and oil starvation. profile subframe and move the steering rack, and I still have these overarching concerns to address. Having gone through all the options of how to keep it all in check, I am left with dry sump as the best option., that will leave me with water pump issues 🤦🏻♂️🙈 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumpy Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share Posted June 5, 2020 (edited) maybe you will have sorted all those by the time i get the body sorted i can learn from your headaches lol as i say just looking at options at the moment have no definite plans Edited June 5, 2020 by stumpy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessopia74 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Found the pic of the guy I was chatting to about early B with 1uz, he’s done an excellent conversion, but did not have any pictures of underside. Uses Lexus auto box. Nice touch with the Opel badge on engine cover Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumpy Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share Posted June 5, 2020 thats lush i actually now of a low mileage lexus 1uz moror with oom auto box prop ect even has a bmw 535 manual box to convert to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessopia74 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Auto cars have a slightly bigger tunnel for the gearbox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDY ABBOTT Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 (edited) I have rover v8 in my rally car, c20xe on twin webber's in my mancona, tuned 2.4 in my i240r and a BMW M50B25 in my commodore. I'd choose the bmw lump over the lot for reliability, drivability and power. The commodore is one of the most fun things I've ever driven with the BMW engine and box in. Edited June 6, 2020 by ANDY ABBOTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumpy Posted June 6, 2020 Author Share Posted June 6, 2020 i saw a guy put an m3 bmw motor in a manta i think its on youtube he also made mant 400 [type] arches using the steel wings and quarters very neat way of doing things an all steel ime getting fromthis fit whatever you want/have lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumpy Posted June 9, 2020 Author Share Posted June 9, 2020 a few pics of the strip down Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. front corner of windscreen pillar a lower c pillar probably the worst bitsto my mind but doable Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanMc Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 That all looks very familiar lol - take your time, everything is fixable 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-400 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Think we all went that way, a pic of the GSI in 2009: Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. But you 'v got courage, working in open air! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumpy Posted June 9, 2020 Author Share Posted June 9, 2020 (edited) Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. lol ime welsh Herman we are used to the weather....... it will be getting closed off on the sides nott in pics but ive made a lean too/car port so has a roof over it i will be putting sides on it just waiting on materials at the moment as with covid their hard to get hold of with the the A post ime wondering wether a complete new section is needed or wether i could cut down the fold lines as in pic and make this section from sheet steel probably in two peices to make sure of an accurate fit rearwards of the blue line is rot free doesnt seem much sense removing more than needed Edited June 9, 2020 by stumpy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumpy Posted June 10, 2020 Author Share Posted June 10, 2020 so a question for you guys is there an inner A post panel available or does anyone have a pic of one on the car without the outer skin fitted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickfrad Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Pretty sure the inner A post isn’t available unless someone’s cutting up a car. Check out Andy Abbotts build thread for lots of relevant and useful pictures. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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