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Polar White and Rust - a restoration epic, can it even be done?


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20 hours ago, ®evo03 said:

Ian, have you made a boot liner, or lined the boot? 

Hi evo, I hope that you are keeping well?

Yes, I lived the boot a couple of years ago, with that stretch stuff you can buy on EBay etc.

I’m pretty sure I have covered this in a previous post a few pages back. It’s really easy to use, and in my opinion, it really lifts the whole boot area.

I actually have some of the same material in Burgundy, that I will use shortly to cover the ‘parcel shelf’. I think that this will soften the feel of the interior again, as well as making it look a little more modern.

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8 hours ago, ®evo03 said:

Any links to the material. 

Got a few jobs for it, also thinking of buying Alcatara, want to learn how to stick and restore a steering wheel. 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/165994849808?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=8fvKhXIRT4i&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=i-24FysjSWS&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

 

I bought mine from these guys evo. I placed two or three orders - all good 👍 

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Hi All,

Inspired by some recent talk of 4-way stretch carpet again, I decided I would drag out the Burgundy piece my Daughter has bought for me ages ago, with a view to covering my Coupe 'parcel shelf'. 

First job was to remove the shelf panel - this is what I was left looking at...

 

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Very discoloured and generally looking shabby/beaten up.

Next job wad to lay out the stretch carpet and cut a piece about 50 mm bigger all round.

 

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Then I raised the panel off the ground slightly, to make it a little easier to apply the upholstery glue (no photo of that, sorry.

 

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After the contact adhesive had dried, I lay the stretch carpet over it, then used a graphic applicator to smooth it all out.

 

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After leaving everything in the Sun for about 15 minutes to dry a little more, the next job was to try to cut the air slots. I found that it was best to cut a line down the middle, stopping about 10 mm before the end, then going diagonally to each corner.

Once the cutting was done on each slot, I used the carpets stretch ability to pull it through enough to get a few staples in to hold it. I used my old bobby stapler and some short leg (4 mm staples) - this worked pretty well. As you can see. it looks pretty presentable from the front too.

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After each slot was done, you will be left looking at something like the photo below.

 

 

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Next I trimmed away some more excess material from the circumference, leaving approx. 15-20 mm all round. This was to allow me to stretch it tightly, then secured around the edge with more staples. I found it beneficial to use some staples at 90 degrees to the others at this pint - not really sure why it helped, but it did.

Here is a view after the edge stapling of the front and the back of the panel.

 

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The last job out of the car, was to refit the speaker pods. Here is how they look.

 

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Then of course it was time to refit the panel with the speakers back into the car.

Personally,. I think it looks a LOT better than before, and helps to 'soften' the look of the interior a bit more.

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I hope that the above might help, or perhaps even inspire someone else to try this stretch carpet - I think its a brilliant product.

Enjoy your weekend folks.

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Yes, I've a few jobs for this, looks great and I am sure it will inspire others. Especially when it's available in different colours. 

Good job on the staples, Opel seemed to fail in this area, one area than always looks bad is around the inside door opening handles. Saggy and badly finished. 

Q, Do they also sell the adhesive? 

Great job, you should do interior repairs.

Another area this would work well is the centre console, as it is more like a launch pad for missiles, maybe a removable section on hardboard to lay flat on existing. 

Top work Ian as always, 👍

 

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14 minutes ago, ®evo03 said:

Q, Do they also sell the adhesive? 

Another area this would work well is the centre console.

They used to sell the adhesive with the carpet in bundles mate, not sure if they still do that now though.

I have already done my centre console (in Black), it looks a feels miles better in my opinion. You should find the details of this a few pages back in this project thread.

Just checked evo - take a look at page 82 👍

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So, bit of a problem I need your help with please people.

I bought two extra gallons of fuel to go with the one that I drained out of the tank before replacing all of the fuel lines. Stuck that in the tank, fitted the freshly charged battery, and…. nothing.

It turned over find, but after checking the online fuel filter, I found it bone dry.

So, I’m guessing that there is air in the new fuels to get out?

If that is correct, any ideas how to get rid of that, and get some fuel up to the carb? Vacuum pump maybe?

Thanks in advance for any help or tips!

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must admit ive not come across that problem before but i suppose you could suck on the fuel pipe before it enters the fuel pump. you should feel it coming and also see the fuel filter start to fill up. then reconnect the pipe .

this is what i would do . or otherwise im sure cranking would pull the fuel through eventually .( have you got a vacuum pump to try if ness ?)

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11 minutes ago, cam.in.head said:

must admit ive not come across that problem before but i suppose you could suck on the fuel pipe before it enters the fuel pump. you should feel it coming and also see the fuel filter start to fill up. then reconnect the pipe .

this is what i would do . or otherwise im sure cranking would pull the fuel through eventually .( have you got a vacuum pump to try if ness ?)

Thanks Chris, appreciated. Yes I do have a vacuum pump I bought years ago for brake bleeding, but I couldn’t really get on with it for that job…

I think I will give that a go first, using the pump inlet flexi as the connection point 👍

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7 hours ago, IanMc said:

Thanks Chris, appreciated. Yes I do have a vacuum pump I bought years ago for brake bleeding, but I couldn’t really get on with it for that job…

I think I will give that a go first, using the pump inlet flexi as the connection point 👍

Ian, you will probably find that if all the lines are new and you have no fuel in then that just cranking probably wont be enough to pull the fuel through with the standard fuel pump just on crank as it will take a bit to draw it up from the tank. If you could get it to fire up it would probably be ok but i will try sucking it through. 

I once had a small split in the flexi pipe over the axel on my A and if it was left for a long time air seemed to seep in and the fuel would drain back to the tank and i could never get it to suck it through just on cranking.

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Think there is a hack for this! 

Diluted orange plastic bottle, two lengths of pipe, connect it before the pump. Once you get juice, the pump should pump it up to filter and carb, just check, filter is directional, normally a hard to see arrow ➡️

I think I remember raising back of car up, with jack and disconnecting before pump, gravity worked, and the rest was easy. 

If pump is unbolted, it can be primed. 

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OK guys, I have had a little mess around the fuel supply this morning and can provide an update.

After thinking about this little issue yesterday afternoon, I decided that I would try to use the vacuum pump that I bought ages ago to try to 'pull' the fuel through. Being very much a Southern softie, I couldn't bear the thought of Unleaded in my mouth, regardless of the quantity!

I also decided that I would try to pull it through all the way up to the carb. My thinking was that this would ensure the fuel was getting all the way through all of the new rigid and flexi lines, the fuel filter and even the pump itself.

The good news is that the vacuum pump was successful and it pulled fuel right up to the carb, and thanks to the clear pipe, I could see masses of air and bubbles coming with it. To my mind that proves conclusively that the new lines are all clear, the fuel filter is also clear/installed correctly (even through I checked the direction arrow many times during installation...) and fuel can pass through the pump. It doesn't actually prove the pump does pump though! That pump was a replacement a couple of years back, so surely it cant have gone bad already?! I will assume its OK for now, unless I prove otherwise a bit further down the track. 

Here is a selection of the photos of my vacuum pump, you can see some fuel accumulated in the catch pot.

 

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After the battery has has a few more hours on the charger, I will attempt another start.

By the way on the matter of the battery, I'm also now pretty certain that this has had it. Its been on several of my vehicles over the last few years as a 'spare' or 'test' battery, and judging by how long it lasted yesterday and the feeble turn over speed, it's now almost dead. As well as being a Southern softie, I am also inherently tight, so I have a plan:

My Wife's Renault Zoe (full EV) is due a service in a couple of weeks time, and one of the regular service items is the 12v battery, irrespective of its condition. This has to be replaced every two years regardless. Wayne (1200bandit)will know and understand this, but basically, as well as looking after all of the normal electrical stuff, it also keeps the battery management software, charging system monitoring etc tip top to prevent any 'issues'.

So as that will be replaced, I will grab that back from the dealer to use as my new 'spare'. My prediction is that this will significantly improve the starting situation with the Cavalier. It might not be exactly the same spec., but anything is going to be better than a dud...

Enjoy your day everyone.

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When you book in tell them that you want this checked,replace ( if part of the jod or warranty) . Google it or on the Renault website to make sure that this is covered as they will try to dismiss you 

Get them to put it on the jod card or it will never get checked ,when you go to pick if up make sure they have done it

l know from experience that this never gets done.

On a Zoe service normally just a cabin filter,brake fluid change ( do need a clip ,computer to replace fluid) 

If you are correct and they say you will have to pay for the battery take in paper work to prove that is covered and get the service manager,General manager involved,be firm and don’t shout as will not help 

 

 

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1 hour ago, 1200bandit said:

When you book in tell them that you want this checked,replace ( if part of the jod or warranty) . Google it or on the Renault website to make sure that this is covered as they will try to dismiss you 

Get them to put it on the jod card or it will never get checked ,when you go to pick if up make sure they have done it

l know from experience that this never gets done.

On a Zoe service normally just a cabin filter,brake fluid change ( do need a clip ,computer to replace fluid) 

If you are correct and they say you will have to pay for the battery take in paper work to prove that is covered and get the service manager,General manager involved,be firm and don’t shout as will not help 

 

 

Thanks Wayne. Up until this service, the car has a full Renault MDSH. The care is a 64 plate, and we have decided that this time the schedule will be followed, but not by a Renault dealer.

At this service it is only due the cabin pollen filter and the 12v battery - the brake fluid was changed this time last year.

As this service does require any ‘specialist’ knowledge or training, we have decided to get the service done at the same time as the MOT.

They have agreed that we can supply the parts, then they will fit them and complete/sign the service record for us.

I already have a Bosch cabin pollen filter, and I have a YUASA battery on order (which has a 4 year warranty).

 

 

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IF  you do decide to fit a new (or different) battery its worth noting that the original 063 size can be uprated size wise to a 075 or even a 100 size (not 096 !)

i think your fuel issue should be solved now but as i mentioned ive replaced many fuel lines over the years on cavs and never had any issues where the pump didnt pull the fuel through, even an unprimed pump should pull vacuum so should eventually pull fuel all the way through. a worn out battery obviously wont help !

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2 hours ago, cam.in.head said:

IF  you do decide to fit a new (or different) battery its worth noting that the original 063 size can be uprated size wise to a 075 or even a 100 size (not 096 !)

i think your fuel issue should be solved now but as i mentioned ive replaced many fuel lines over the years on cavs and never had any issues where the pump didnt pull the fuel through, even an unprimed pump should pull vacuum so should eventually pull fuel all the way through. a worn out battery obviously wont help !

Hi Chris,

A recommend direct replacement for the Zoe is the YUASA YBX3012 - how does that equate in terms of size and cranking power to the Cavalier?

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