ANDY ABBOTT Posted May 12, 2023 Author Share Posted May 12, 2023 So.... out it comes again. Massive oversight by myself, forgot to check the oil pump pressure releif valve 🙈 engine has been stood for many years so guessing with it being say dry it's seized up. After a couple of minutes running This has resulted in the cam locking up on a journal, jumped the exhaust cam timing and bemt 8 valves 🤦♂️ so rebuild time AGAIN ! 🤣 I just dont have any luck with engines, and yes I am an idiot sandwich for not checking the pump before dropping the engine in the car. Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timvds Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 Oh man! That hurts. Best of luck to you, hope to see her rebuilt soon. Greetings from the NL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessopia74 Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 Oh dear mate, you lunck MUST change soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trooker Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 Nightmare! It all seemed to be going so well. Glad to see you pushing on regardless 💪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDY ABBOTT Posted May 12, 2023 Author Share Posted May 12, 2023 Completely my own fault live and learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDY ABBOTT Posted May 24, 2023 Author Share Posted May 24, 2023 Engine now rebuilt AGAIN ! Dropped back into the car and is up and running. Ready to go to Antonio for mapping this Saturday Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessopia74 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Can’t wait to see how he gets on with it mate 😎👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDY ABBOTT Posted May 25, 2023 Author Share Posted May 25, 2023 19 hours ago, Jessopia74 said: Can’t wait to see how he gets on with it mate 😎👍 Anything more than 140hp will be a bonus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessopia74 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 55 minutes ago, ANDY ABBOTT said: Anything more than 140hp will be a bonus lol, it bloody better be mate! Circa 180 for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
®evo03 Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 (edited) Seen a injection redtop in a manta years ago, standard, no mods, standard injectors, at that time it was a 25yr old engine, 160bhp. Only mod was rwd manifold, with carefully shaved manifold gasket. Edited May 27, 2023 by ®evo03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessopia74 Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 4 hours ago, ®evo03 said: Seen an injection redtop in a manta years ago, standard, no mods, standard injectors, at that time it was a 25yr old engine, 180bhp. Only mod was rwd manifold, with carefully shaved manifold gasket. F it was std, how did ecu allow it go go +30bhp? It’s highly doubtful knowing Motronic closed loop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
®evo03 Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 (edited) Typo, it had standard power at 160, not bad, for an old engine. I'd imagine this engine 200 mark, good luck with dyno setup. Edited May 27, 2023 by ®evo03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDY ABBOTT Posted June 11, 2023 Author Share Posted June 11, 2023 We hit 180hp on the dyno day. Not bad but there's something still holding the car back, it's lacking any torque somethings a miss so we will now pull the axle as I have another one fitted with a 4.22 ZF so we will see if this helps. Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. Project images are available to Club Members Only, Click to become an OMOC Member. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Barrett Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 What cams you running? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDY ABBOTT Posted June 12, 2023 Author Share Posted June 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Paul Barrett said: What cams you running? Q420 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Barrett Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 Ok yeah you should be making more than that with those. what injector sizing you end up using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
®evo03 Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 (edited) Great work, looking very nice. It's been a while since I even had to do redtop work, but honestly surprised these are only 160ish bhp standard, thought they where 180bhp. From a rally perspective over here, thought with ITB, and ECU and cam would push these engines to 250bhp plus. You tube channel, if you need any ideas. Was tempted to build a proper engine, maybe one day as parts are becoming readily available, and getting long in the tooth, as there are better available now for the rally guys. Thinking Millingtons are up to 400bhp 2.7, unreal for NA. Edited June 12, 2023 by ®evo03 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDY ABBOTT Posted June 13, 2023 Author Share Posted June 13, 2023 9 hours ago, Paul Barrett said: Ok yeah you should be making more than that with those. what injector sizing you end up using? Currently it's on 320cc mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDY ABBOTT Posted June 13, 2023 Author Share Posted June 13, 2023 Also managed to get the booked in to zaustworkz 7th July for a custom stainless system to help it breath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Barrett Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 1 hour ago, ANDY ABBOTT said: Currently it's on 320cc mate That’s enough for 200hp, what pressure you running fuel at? You could run bigger injectors but doesn’t mean any better in that range. Are they new or tested for good spray pattern? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDY ABBOTT Posted June 13, 2023 Author Share Posted June 13, 2023 14 hours ago, Paul Barrett said: That’s enough for 200hp, what pressure you running fuel at? You could run bigger injectors but doesn’t mean any better in that range. Are they new or tested for good spray pattern? Running at a smidge over 3 bar. Injectors was brand new around 1000 miles ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Barrett Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Hhhmmm pressure is good then. as you say could be exhaust not letting it breath so well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDY ABBOTT Posted June 14, 2023 Author Share Posted June 14, 2023 9 hours ago, Paul Barrett said: Hhhmmm pressure is good then. as you say could be exhaust not letting it breath so well. Not sure if the injectors are cheap junk as they was supplied by the guys it first went too who installed the bodies etc... so wouldn't mind swapping them for a good quality set to put my mind at rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
®evo03 Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 Andy is it an open diff currently, and do you think this is affecting Dyno. All that work and cost for a 20bhp increase, it's making me rethink, I know it's alot of work and cost to get big power, I am considering is it worth it, to get a standard engine from 160 to 250ish, of course it is 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Barrett Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 4 hours ago, ®evo03 said: Andy is it an open diff currently, and do you think this is affecting Dyno. All that work and cost for a 20bhp increase, it's making me rethink, I know it's alot of work and cost to get big power, I am considering is it worth it, to get a standard engine from 160 to 250ish, of course it is 😉 But of course it is! 😂😂 I’m be got some high end 1000cc ones sat in store but may be a tad overkill lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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