Monaco Blue Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Looks very nice. Being silver, I doubt it's an Exclusive unless it has been resprayed. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/125669878938 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessopia74 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Yeah, it’s not got decals or steering wheel, but still a GTE and seems pretty tidy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike. Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 (edited) I think this is one great looking hatch, the silver really suits it. Looks well looked after. Edited December 19, 2022 by Mike. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monaco Blue Posted December 19, 2022 Author Share Posted December 19, 2022 (edited) I knew I recognised the silver with red decals. It was up for sale for a day back in May. Shame the original ebay listing is no longer there to view. Edited December 19, 2022 by Monaco Blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick-Manta Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 He was after a lot more than this a while ago, claiming it's an exclusive (which it clearly isn't) and thus worth as much as a coupe. The towbar looks horrible; why a dealer wouldn't get that removed in order to get the best price for it is beyond me. Although if the mileage is truly backed up "by VOSA" as he states, then it's still by no means a bad car. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessopia74 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Rick-Manta said: He was after a lot more than this a while ago, claiming it's an exclusive (which it clearly isn't) and thus worth as much as a coupe. The towbar looks horrible; why a dealer wouldn't get that removed in order to get the best price for it is beyond me. Although if the mileage is truly backed up "by VOSA" as he states, then it's still by no means a bad car. Holes in the boot floor? Problem with this era type of tow bar is that they do leave damage to the shell once removed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick-Manta Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Jessopia74 said: Holes in the boot floor? Problem with this era type of tow bar is that they do leave damage to the shell once removed. I've removed several. You can either bung up the holes in the floor or weld the box section they're normally bolted to like it was a rot repair, or as was often the case, angle grind off all the petruding bits, so it appeared "top side" to be normal. The worst part of towbar removal is unsplicing the wiring and going over each wire with a piece of heat shrink or insulation tape. I messaged the seller. He confirmed it is not an exclusive and said the guy he bought from claimed it was. I told him (I hope accurately) that standard and exclusive hatches aren't too different in value; it's the exclusive coupes looking more like a 400 have gone mad price wise. Additionally he has no record backing up the mileage other than MOT record online, which started when?.. 2006? So I'm very sceptical of claimed genuine low mileage Mantas these days as too many I bought even 10 years back have been around the clock and both the CIH and 1.8S can do 150k plus thanks to the 5-speed being long legged. Edited December 21, 2022 by Rick-Manta 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessopia74 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Rick-Manta said: I've removed several. You can either bung up the holes in the floor or weld the box section they're normally bolted to like it was a rot repair, or as was often the case, angle grind off all the petruding bits, so it appeared "top side" to be normal. The worst part of towbar removal is unsplicing the wiring and going over each wire with a piece of heat shrink or insulation tape. I messaged the seller. He confirmed it is not an exclusive and said the guy he bought from claimed it was. I told him (I hope accurately) that standard and exclusive hatches aren't too different in value; it's the exclusive coupes looking more like a 400 have gone mad price wise. Additionally he has no record backing up the mileage other than MOT record online, which started when?.. 2006? So I'm very sceptical of claimed genuine low mileage Mantas these days as too many I bought even 10 years back have been around the clock and both the CIH and 1.8S can do 150k plus thanks to the 5-speed being long legged. Yeah, but that work is something dealer would not want to do (was more my point). As for miles, think we all know the tell-tale signs of a high mileage car. So if it looks like it could be, and has some of the OEM bits that tend to need replacement on highe Miles, then you can’t always be so dismissive imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick-Manta Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 I normally find pedal rubbers to be the best indicator, along with wear on the gearstick and steering wheel. This GTE has them replaced with alloy aftermarket ones and the wheel is different from OE. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCarlos Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 6 hours ago, Rick-Manta said: I normally find pedal rubbers to be the best indicator, along with wear on the gearstick and steering wheel. This GTE has them replaced with alloy aftermarket ones and the wheel is different from OE. Exactly my dilemma on the car ive just advertised. No written history whatsoever, and if you saw where i found it you would cringe. However its 1 owner from new and showing 39k - question is, genuine or not ? So the,pedal rubbers - perfect all round Vinyl mat under the pedals - perfect and mint Steering wheel - all the texture Gear knob - all the texture Inside the engine - mint, as new no sludge at all with cross hatch on the bores This counts for it being genuine for me Oh and the way it drives, tight as a drum on a very skint day ! 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick-Manta Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 On 22/12/2022 at 00:46, MrCarlos said: Exactly my dilemma on the car ive just advertised. No written history whatsoever, and if you saw where i found it you would cringe. However its 1 owner from new and showing 39k - question is, genuine or not ? So the,pedal rubbers - perfect all round Vinyl mat under the pedals - perfect and mint Steering wheel - all the texture Gear knob - all the texture Inside the engine - mint, as new no sludge at all with cross hatch on the bores This counts for it being genuine for me Oh and the way it drives, tight as a drum on a very skint day ! She's a beaut! And certainly the better option when compared to this towbar hatch.. Yes, certain evidence cannot be faked, nor make economic sense to do so. Paperwork is desirable, but it's a logical conclusion if other evidence, such as wear, supports the mileage. I find it maddening these days with claimed but not proven low mileage. The last 1.8S I bought showed 35k and the seller and his dad kept saying it's genuine, despite the pedal rubbers having worn through, the shiny wheel and gearknob and drove as you'd expect an old but looked after 8v OHC to drive. I sold it stating 136,000 miles, but the guy I sold it to advertised it as 36k, and the guy who owns it now tells people "it's only done 37k." Anyway, what trade-in value can I get for the Cavalier on this GTE? 😄 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDY ABBOTT Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 (edited) People need to be very carful with this seller I bought a cosworth from him turned out to be a ringer and he knew full well as he'd already sold it once before and had to take it back as the then buyer also found out it was a ringer. He cut all ties with me and had moved premises couple days after I bought it and folded the company. Luckily I managed to sell it on being open and honest about the cars I'd the guy who bought it off me only wanted it for its parts I lost 4k on it however. Edited December 27, 2022 by ANDY ABBOTT 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessopia74 Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, ANDY ABBOTT said: People need to be very carful with this seller I bought a cosworth from him turned out to be a ringer and he knew full well as he'd already sold it once before and had to take it back as the then buyer also found out it was a ringer. He cut all ties with me and had moved premises couple days after I bought it and folded the company. Luckily I managed to sell it on being open and honest about the cars I'd the guy who bought it off me only wanted it for its parts I lost 4k on it however. That’s shocking! No legal action as option? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDY ABBOTT Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Jessopia74 said: That’s shocking! No legal action as option? In all honestly jess I couldn't be bothered with the stress had a lot going on at the time with Danny passing, businesses etc.. I just didn't have the time or frame of mind to chase after it was just happy to get majority of the money back on it. He now trading as elite cars aswell as Ash motors. A quick Google search will show neither company exists. Edited December 27, 2022 by ANDY ABBOTT 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealExile Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 1 hour ago, ANDY ABBOTT said: People need to be very carful with this seller I bought a cosworth from him turned out to be a ringer and he knew full well as he'd already sold it once before and had to take it back as the then buyer also found out it was a ringer. He cut all ties with me and had moved premises couple days after I bought it and folded the company. Luckily I managed to sell it on being open and honest about the cars I'd the guy who bought it off me only wanted it for its parts I lost 4k on it however. Thanks for the warning Andy, not quite ready to buy yet until my Project is moved on, Carl's looks a much better bet for anyone looking. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1200bandit Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 40 minutes ago, TheRealExile said: Thanks for the warning Andy, not quite ready to buy yet until my Project is moved on, Carl's looks a much better bet for anyone looking. This is why being a classic car club is well worth the money as it can save you a lot of money 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick-Manta Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 On 27/12/2022 at 16:48, ANDY ABBOTT said: In all honestly jess I couldn't be bothered with the stress had a lot going on at the time with Danny passing, businesses etc.. I just didn't have the time or frame of mind to chase after it was just happy to get majority of the money back on it. He now trading as elite cars aswell as Ash motors. A quick Google search will show neither company exists. Danny, as in Danny Ormerod? That's a bit of a shock. My belated condolences to his friends and family. Thanks also for the heads-up on this dodgy trader. He's still advertising it as an exclusive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutty2006 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 How do we know it isn’t an exclusive? Just curious. I can see the rear bumper is wrong and has no infill panel, but those may have been removed when the tow bar got fitted. Just a theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick-Manta Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 40 minutes ago, Sutty2006 said: How do we know it isn’t an exclusive? Just curious. I can see the rear bumper is wrong and has no infill panel, but those may have been removed when the tow bar got fitted. Just a theory. It says "exclusive," "executive" or "exec" on the V5. The seller confirmed that it doesn't and the car isn't, but hasn't changed the listing. As well as the rear bumper and infill, it's the wrong colour, has the wrong wheels and wrong glass tint. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1900SR Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 19 minutes ago, Rick-Manta said: It says "exclusive," "executive" or "exec" on the V5. The seller confirmed that it doesn't and the car isn't, but hasn't changed the listing. As well as the rear bumper and infill, it's the wrong colour, has the wrong wheels and wrong glass tint. It also has the large wash bottle, so the quad headlamps will not be factory. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutty2006 Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 Thanks guys! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessopia74 Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 Interesting stuff. No obvious way to see if it was Exclusive on VIN ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDY ABBOTT Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 22 hours ago, Rick-Manta said: Danny, as in Danny Ormerod? That's a bit of a shock. My belated condolences to his friends and family. Thanks also for the heads-up on this dodgy trader. He's still advertising it as an exclusive. Yes Dan passed earlier on in the year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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