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Yup I remember walking into a motor factors in late 2006 and asking for a pair of wings. “Only got the one, £50”. And I bought it. Shame they didn’t have both really. But its also a shame parts cost so much now. These cars are becoming expensive to keep and repair! 

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its our fault too realy. 

if people are prepared to pay stupid high prices then people who need stuff will have to pay .if every person who sold things asked sensible prices throughout then this wouldnt happen.

same with car prices realy. round by me people dont seem too greedy.i found a manta gte in a garden not long ago and enquired if they wanted it. they said " take what you want or take the whole lot " no charge. i got a few bits and bats then they got scrap man to collect it.

i also had a very good condition ascona 2.0sr that i sold to a friends girlfriend within the last few years and asked for £700. they offered £550. to me  thats all it was worth .i bought it from a garden with no mot for £150 .mot'd it and made a little profit. everybody happy !

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9 hours ago, cam.in.head said:

its our fault too realy. 

if people are prepared to pay stupid high prices then people who need stuff will have to pay .if every person who sold things asked sensible prices throughout then this wouldnt happen.

same with car prices realy. 

You hit the nail on the head there really. The whole part of being in a club is members look after each other. I’ve given parts away, or sold them to members cheap because thats how we should roll. I’ve even been given parts from club members for helping them out or similar. We are a family, but unfortunately some don’t treat it that way. But enough about that. I want show season to start again! 

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Indeed, fully agree !
I have had to pay top €€ for parts, but I have also been fortunate to have been looked after by a fair few omoc guys on my parts quests. 
I will help where I can and if I do sell anything ( nothing us for sale, ever !) it's only to help so I will pass parts on at what I paid for it/have in it.

I would like the club to start investing in some rare original panels with a view to doing a deal to get patterns made, and this should be exclusively sold to members for their projects at cost.

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On 21/02/2021 at 10:03, cam.in.head said:

its our fault too realy. 

if people are prepared to pay stupid high prices then people who need stuff will have to pay .if every person who sold things asked sensible prices throughout then this wouldnt happen.

Didn't, and will not happen for the housing market, try telling that to an estate agent, or property investor, your electric power supplier, food bills, or your boss!  Then again if we all paid sensible prices we wouldn't need pay rises? So........whats the best way forward, bust the bubble or ride the wave.........where did it all go wrong!

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thats true. but car prices and parts have gone daft. il not be spending £400 on a wing thats for sure or any other parts .if i need one il be making repair panels . last wing i fitted to mine in 2012 was half a cav wing and half an ascona wing. i did advertise the ascona wing on ebay but got no bids.

where did it all go wrong indeed ? 

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10 minutes ago, cam.in.head said:

thats true. but car prices and parts have gone daft. il not be spending £400 on a wing thats for sure or any other parts .if i need one il be making repair panels . last wing i fitted to mine in 2012 was half a cav wing and half an ascona wing. i did advertise the ascona wing on ebay but got no bids.

where did it all go wrong indeed ? 

As the parts become rare mate. Bits for my AsconaA as an example; inner wings, one side easy to find NOS and €200, however omg the other side was extremely hard to get NOS and cost 3x the price. 
As the B/CC parts become harder to get and the cost goes up, it might be worth the tooling for one of the repro panel manufacturers to start naking? Although I suspect it will not, as the market is still very small in comparison to fords/minis as an example.  So we will be stuck scratching around for bespoke repair sections, making our own or buying the very expensive nos if it's available.

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making our own is the most fun but stuff does pop up on ebay eventually. i got 3 front pipes for £10 each a few years ago and keep a look out for bits i may not need at the moment but may in the future..will buy stuff if its a sensible price but no way will i  pay over the odds for things that i have previously thrown away

as for selling stuff i thought the market had dried up anyway because a few months ago i advertised on here that i was clearing out a load of stuff and not got any replies at all apart from one guy who was interested in a 2 litre engine so i got one ready and then he never messaged again. would have put stuff on ebay but the lockdown would have not helped so have took loads to the scrap. engines,gearboxes,body panels,doors etc. just kept what i think i might need in the future . still got bits left but nowhere near what i had . 

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£255 each for a pattern wing that cost £27 back in the day and with what looked like surface rust spots. 

i know i wouldnt be bidding that much for it. 

please no offence intended,even if someone here bought it .each to their own !

 

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If the club shop could offer pattern replacement panels it could be a lucrative business with a good income and revenue stream, it could also put an end to over inflated pricing by setting benchmarks. Replacement roof skins, 2&4 slot nosecones, rear valance, rear quarters would all be great to have, along with the usual floor pans, jacking points, spare wheel well, chassis rails etc, even knowing these panels were easily available from the club shop would be nice.
OEM panels will always carry higher prices and probably better fitment, at the moment they turn up regular on auction sites but as time goes on will become rarer and harder to get.

Magnum or Klockerholm panel availability seem to be very sporadic, sometimes you can get and at other times it doesn’t matter how hard you search they are not available anywhere.

 

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Dont think there is a big enough market for mantas. I realised this years ago, most mantas now are garage queens, when they where 5, 10, 15 yrs old and working cars, yes, but im sure there are now more garage queens than back garden queens. I cant see me needing any wings, doors, roofskins etc. Only the brave that are prepared to tackle a restoration, and they are all of that knife edge, is it economical to repair, or would breaking it be beneficial. We all seen cars broke for profit, wonder could you buy an average car, every new panel, pay to get it welded, painted and finished for less than a mint car. Base line is an exclusive coupe! 

As for new panels, its a very long time in the pipeline!

Example is the new Chinese mk2 escort shells, apparently original panels wont fit? Does that mean if 15 years time new tooling will be needed? 

17 minutes ago, Mike. said:

Magnum or Klockerholm panel availability seem to be very sporadic, sometimes you can get and at other other times it doesn’t matter how hard you search they are not available anywhere.

 

Think they make them in small batches, from time to time, they are dispatched, and sold, at em gone!  Do magnum do manta stuff! 

Got stuck last year getting the passangers side rear spring support chassis section for a manta b, have the drivers side, but ended up going full manta 400 raised section to lower the car, raise the axle closer to the car! 

 

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Have you seen the NEW Mk1 and MK2 escorts, would be great to see them do the Manta,

 

11 minutes ago, ®evo03 said:

Example is the new Chinese mk2 escort shells, apparently original panels wont fit? Does that mean if 15 years time new tooling will be needed? 

 

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