Mickfrad Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 (edited) Not sure what you all think about these draws, but this looks like a great example of an exclusive. Not sure why anyone would take the 15k alternative when this has got to be way above that. https://thegiveawayguys.co.uk/collections/competition/products/immaculate-1988-opel-manta-gte-exclusive-or-15-000 Edited January 3 by Mickfrad Photo added Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealExile Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Very nice, I'd certainly take the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonmonkey Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 It sold at Anglia Auctions in 2020 for £22,260 inc buyer’s premium (which I think was 8%). It says it had a full glass out respray. Assuming it’s still in good condition £15k sounds like very good value https://www.glenmarch.com/auction-cars/show-backup-image/84115/results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
®evo03 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 (edited) £15k alternative or a great car. Based on analytics and auction forecasts, they only need to reach 3000 ticket sales, if breakeven is 15k. There was a manta auction recently tickets where £20, x 4,000 sold, that is £80,000. Minus the price of the car, say tops £30k. 50k profit, and that's HOW YOU SELL A MANTA. Live draws can be watched, so you see final ticket sales in total, multiply that by the cost of each ticket 💰 now on the other hand, someone gets a great car for £20, or £5 in this case. The gamble is, do you win, it's the price of a pint. Their gamble is, do they sell 3000 plus tickets, but forecast look after that. Now have you ever seen a bookie driving a clapped out Ford focus, struggling to pay bills, and facing homelessness. 🤔 On the other hand would it hurt to have 1 less pint of beer this weekend. So, that's that explained in a nutshell. Bookie, auctioneer gets major profit on ticket sales, minus car purchase. Winner gets a great car for £5, It's the other 2999+ loses that had one beer less, I worry about. Am I buying a ticket? , 🤣 Edited January 3 by ®evo03 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealExile Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Just short of 2 pints at our social club 😁 but I'm still thinking about buying a ticket 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-400 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Can not remember I came across of something like this ticket sale on this side of the pond... Think I would buy a ticket 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
®evo03 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 4 hours ago, H-400 said: Think I would buy a ticket Only way to win or loose. You can't win or loose if you don't buy one👍🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessopia74 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 22 hours ago, ®evo03 said: £15k alternative or a great car. Based on analytics and auction forecasts, they only need to reach 3000 ticket sales, if breakeven is 15k. There was a manta auction recently tickets where £20, x 4,000 sold, that is £80,000. Minus the price of the car, say tops £30k. 50k profit, and that's HOW YOU SELL A MANTA. Live draws can be watched, so you see final ticket sales in total, multiply that by the cost of each ticket 💰 now on the other hand, someone gets a great car for £20, or £5 in this case. The gamble is, do you win, it's the price of a pint. Their gamble is, do they sell 3000 plus tickets, but forecast look after that. Now have you ever seen a bookie driving a clapped out Ford focus, struggling to pay bills, and facing homelessness. 🤔 On the other hand would it hurt to have 1 less pint of beer this weekend. So, that's that explained in a nutshell. Bookie, auctioneer gets major profit on ticket sales, minus car purchase. Winner gets a great car for £5, It's the other 2999+ loses that had one beer less, I worry about. Am I buying a ticket? , 🤣 It’s nearly 12K tickets @ £5 ea. so £60k . These raffles just drive the car prices up faster than any single thing collectors can do 😔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
®evo03 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Has it sold 12,000 tickets already? Lowers the odds of winning. I think lottos should lower numbers allocation, 1 to 30 and lower jackpot, what good is 186m to anyone. Interesting topic is computer analytics, do they know what (random) numbers to draw as the winning numbers, against what tickets have been issued, em, that deadline before draw 😉 Now these draws don't work like that, but they can withdraw, extend or push, lower, run offers before cut off point, or deadline. Back to the Manta or cash, it would have to be Manta, maybe 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike. Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 2192 tickets sold to date out of a maximum draw number of tickets at 11995 👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monaco Blue Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 3 hours ago, Mike. said: 2192 tickets sold to date out of a maximum draw number of tickets at 11995 👍 ....and 2 of them are mine! Somebody has to win! 🙂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealExile Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 I'm not keen on providing them card details, shame they don't do PayPal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Pounsett Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 On 05/01/2024 at 11:18, Monaco Blue said: ....and 2 of them are mine! Somebody has to win! 🙂 I bought a couple of tickets too so I’m probably going to win 😁If not I hope you or someone else in the club does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
®evo03 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 On 05/01/2024 at 12:22, TheRealExile said: I'm not keen on providing them card details, shame they don't do PayPal. They don't have PayPal for a reason, think about it, multiple bank account 🤣🤔 4 hours ago, Jonathan Pounsett said: 😁 I hope you or someone else in the club does. Been thinking about this, will rare, sort after cars fall into the wrong hands, or erasponsible hands, and will these draws raise the profile, and leave remaining cars ever rarer, or sort after, raising the profile even further? Do ticket buyers buy for the car, or to flip it, or just cause they can. It's a fiver. 😉 And alot of them 🤣 There are examples out there, cars mistreated, and destroyed after receiving. Why? Because it cost the winner (£5) 🤔 But on the flip side, probably the most saddest thing I've seen is the motorcycle museum, Birmingham. Most donated by diceased, or Family members. Thousands of machines left stationary, no use or unused. Which is exactly what the are not designed for. 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDY ABBOTT Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 On 05/01/2024 at 12:22, TheRealExile said: I'm not keen on providing them card details, shame they don't do PayPal. PayPal won't accept competition companies I know as ive just setup one myself. The setup is very difficult and has cost me over 10k to get it up and running. Ontop of yhe price of the car the payment provider takes a cut for every transaction in my case is 0.15p for every transaction. You can also spend thousands per month on social media promotions, also the cost of delivering the car to the customer, the time taken to produce your marketing videos, pictures edits etc... all takes time which is money. I have a few opels going to raffle in the near future. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealExile Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 5 hours ago, ANDY ABBOTT said: PayPal won't accept competition companies I know as ive just setup one myself. The setup is very difficult and has cost me over 10k to get it up and running. Ontop of yhe price of the car the payment provider takes a cut for every transaction in my case is 0.15p for every transaction. You can also spend thousands per month on social media promotions, also the cost of delivering the car to the customer, the time taken to produce your marketing videos, pictures edits etc... all takes time which is money. I have a few opels going to raffle in the near future. Keep us all informed 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i2800 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 😧 "We are only open to residents of the UK" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick-Manta Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 8 hours ago, i2800 said: 😧 "We are only open to residents of the UK" Each country has different regulations on "competitions" and "lotteries," so they're nearly all limited to the country that hosts it. Plus in this case there's the practicality of delivery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
®evo03 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Has this car stood for a long time, came out of a collection, or small museum. Reg looks familiar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mepbowles Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 I'm probably going to enter this, though I definitely don't have the space for it so it'll have to sit outside which seems like a crime. I doubt I'd keep it long unless my parents le lt me garage it at their house but it would probably get damaged so safer with someone else. It would still be fun to own a couple for a little while especially for a fiver and the sale funds could restore the other one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
®evo03 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Or buy a few Beers, off licence beers! Not one pub beer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostSoul Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Well, it looks like I may not have won this Manta! Anyone here had some exciting news today? LS 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoobby Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 If all tickets were sold at the early discount price of £5 the car made £59,975 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monaco Blue Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) 3 hours ago, hoobby said: If all tickets were sold at the early discount price of £5 the car made £59,975 Only around 6000 of the 12000 available tickets were sold. Someone called Andrew Birch won it. Just read on FB that he took the cash rather than the car. Edited January 22 by Monaco Blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanG Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Sad that it didn’t find a home, I assume it will be up for grabs again soon, shame it didn’t go to someone who really wanted it…….given its prob a better investment than any legitimate saving account, money laundering excluded. BTW all winners bar two were low number early bird tickets 🎫 what are the odds? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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